AllMotorITR

Hey guys, just curious... I'm not sure if any of you know, but I could not find it on the Cali DMV website: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ -- If your car has a front bumper that cannot equip a front license plate, i.e. C-West, Mugen, etc, is one still required on the front? I see many Camaros and Corvettes with no room for plates, and it seems that the DMV only mails those owners 1 plate anyway.. Basically, I don't want to order a C-West front bumper or anything like that, and still get fined.

uNF$@#!

you will get fined. CA has a 2 plate law...many try to take off the front plate, and sometimes they get caught. I believe its like a 80 dollar fine...

if you want to throw away your hardearned cash, this seems to be a way to do it...

B2FiNiTY

iTrader: (2)

Yes, you will still need to. Most mercedes, BMWs etc don't have holes for the plate so some people just drill holes into the bumper

YodaIsGod

still required for all vehicles in the State of California.

[b]CALIFORNIA CODES
VEHICLE CODE
SECTION 5200-5206


5200. When two license plates are issued by the department for a
vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were
issued, one in the front and the other in the rear. When one license
plate is issued for use upon a vehicle, it shall be attached to the
rear thereof.


5201. License plates shall at all times be securely fastened to the
vehicle for which they are issued so as to prevent the plates from
swinging and shall be mounted in a position to be clearly visible,
and shall be maintained in a condition so as to be clearly legible.
The rear license plate shall be mounted not less than 12 inches nor
more than 60 inches from the ground, and the front license plate
shall be mounted not more than 60 inches from the ground, except as
follows:
(a) The rear license plate on a tow truck may be mounted on the
left-hand side of the mast assembly at the rear of the cab of the
vehicle, not less than 12 inches nor more than 90 inches from the
ground.
(b) The rear license plate on a tank vehicle hauling hazardous
waste, as defined in Section 25117 of the Health and Safety Code, or
asphalt material may be mounted not less than 12 inches nor more than
90 inches from the ground.
(c) The rear license plate on a truck tractor may be mounted at
the rear of the cab of the vehicle, not less than 12 inches nor more
than 90 inches from the ground.
(d) The rear license plate of a vehicle designed by the
manufacturer for the collection and transportation of garbage,
rubbish, or refuse and which is used regularly for the collection and
transportation of that material by any person or governmental entity
employed to collect, transport, and dispose of garbage, rubbish, or
refuse may be mounted not less than 12 inches nor more than 90 inches
from the ground.
(e) No covering shall be used on license plates except as follows:

(1) The installation of a cover over a lawfully parked vehicle to
protect it from the weather and the elements does not constitute a
violation of this subdivision. Any peace officer or other regularly
salaried employee of a public agency designated to enforce laws,
including local ordinances, relating to the parking of vehicles may
temporarily remove so much of the cover as is necessary to inspect
any license plate, tab, or indicia of registration on a vehicle.
(2) The installation of a license plate security cover is not a
violation of this subdivision if the device does not obstruct or
impair the recognition of the license plate information, including,
but not limited to, the issuing state, license plate number, and
registration tabs, and the cover is limited to the area directly over
the top of the registration tabs. No portion of a license plate
security cover shall rest over the license plate number.
(f) No casing, shield, frame, border, or other device that
obstructs or impairs the reading or recognition of a license plate by
a remote emission sensing device, as specified in Sections 44081 and
44081.6 of the Health and Safety Code, shall be installed on, or
affixed to, a vehicle.

5202. Every license plate issued by this State or any other
jurisdiction within or without the United States shall remain
attached during the period of its validity to the vehicle for which
it is issued while being operated within this State or during the
time the vehicle is being held for sale in this State, or until such
time as a vehicle with special or identification plates is no longer
entitled to such plates and no person shall operate, nor shall an
owner knowingly permit to be operated, upon any highway any vehicle
unless the license plate is so attached. Special permits issued in
lieu of plates shall b

K:()!!y

i paid $15 total to close out my NFP ticket in november...

-k-b0t, who slapped it on after that and left it...

Brian*

holy crap....

Brian

yellow blur

I'm was in the same boat as k-b0t.

AllMotorITR

Yeah, I'm still waiting on my notice for my $10 ticket... It actually kinda works here, like think about it: You don't put your front plate on - you get a fix it ticket. You leave the front plate off until your notice comes in the mail 30 days later. You put the plate on and get the fix it ticket signed off, then you take it off again until you get pulled over again. Then you leave it off for the 30 days until the notice comes, etc etc.. So really you never have to put it on.

B2FiNiTY

iTrader: (2)

I paid $25 when I got the ticket when my car was parked at LAX for 15 minutes. Next time I'm parking infront of a wall.

YodaIsGod

San Francisco....$271...from what i've heard.

AllMotorITR

$271!!! WTF! I thought it was a fix it ticket. That's what the officer told me when he wrote me up for it.

AoiGSR

i used to run plateless on the front but now I always keep it on with exception for photosh00ts and washing da kaa.

-aoib0t, who dun like his flont plate but oh vell.

frogsr

i've never heard of those kinds of hefty fines... i've had bad luck 3 times and it's just a fixit ticket with a small inspection fee/filing fee. sux.

GSRrR

I paid $25 for parking it on the street...by a parking enforcement officer...didnt know they could give those kind of tickets

Bob#455

The ticket is written at the officer's discretion. He can either classify it as a fix-it ticket that will cost you about $10, or he can write it up as a moving violation (in certain jurisdictions - namely the ones that have red light cameras) and you will have to pay $270.

Mario

Can I stop "pinch posting" now or what? Strong Beach back in the house!

I got pulled over and ticketed for no front plate THEN a modified exhaust. How? The chp was in front of me and for some reason unknown to me at the time, he slowed down and pulled right behind me. A few seconds later, the lights came on and he pulled me over. I guess he must have seen me in his rear view w/out a front plate...got it written off, still had to pay $12.

K:()!!y

sure, mang....funny what kinda things bring you back to a place. thanks for the pinch posting, btw. (:

i remember there being word (in local news and papers) that the state of ca was thinking about changing the NFP ticket over to a moving violation (although that sounded BS-ey, to me), but that never materialized, as far as I know...

-k-b0t, who needs to find a hyundai accent forum...

98R-1144

i hear it's points on your license if you get caught w/o a plate in SD??

01TypeR680

damn i used to have a mita i've been without a front plate since 96 and never have i gotten a ticket... what the hell are all you guys doing to get pulled over so often??? -rob

AllMotorITR

It's not what we are doing, but the fact that we drive import cars, and Fast & Furious came out, and cops think we are all racers..

Chris - who wanted a Camaro SS just because cops don't harass dumbestic owners.

Renegade

FYI- By law, or so they told me, Audi will not and cannot let a new car leave the lot without the front license plate frame installed.

B2FiNiTY

iTrader: (2)

Yeah...my dad has been w/o plates since 81 I think and still haven't gotten unlucky.

I have been lucky until that LAX event. Just plain badluck.

itr501

its about 25 in the bay area. I've gotten this ticket before only at street races. I mean theyre just scrutinizing every detail if they catch you just being there.

tip: tape the dealer's sticker on your windshield. You know the one you had on when u first bought the car.

So far so good. I've had cops slow down and stare me down ..but they just drive away..maybe because of the sticker?

IGGY

Yea I'm pretty sure its just a fix it ticket, I've got one before.

What YodaIsGod said is right, but for those of you who put it up in the windshield, the law states that you can only cover a 7 x 7 inch area in the lower left hand corner.

Integ Grl

Have any of you been pulled over just because of no plate, or was it for other reasons (e.g. speeding)?

I got a fix it ticket awhile back for no front plate, but that was only after I got pulled over for speeding (good thing I didn't get ticketed for that!) I still don't run a plate now, and don't worry about it anymore like I used to. On the other hand, I don't live where cops are **** about those things either.

BTW, showing the plate through the windshield makes it more noticeable to the cop that your plate isn't where it's supposed to be.