TURBO my bitch or keep building it NA?

I've been really thinkin about goin to the darkside. It'll be alot easier to make power compared to NA, but I'm not sure about the reliabilty and all that work.

I'll have to sell my cams, header, exhaust, VAFC, etc.

Swap it all out. Buy turbo parts and all that other stuff. But before I can do all this, I'll first need to save up $$$, which will take awhile.

OR

Should I keep the NA route I'm going and keep building it up?


So far the GS-R has:

Skunk2 Stage 1 cams
Skunk2 Cam Gears
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
usdm DC 4-1 header
ITR AEM CAI
Tanabe Super Hyper Medallion Exhaust
B&M fpr
Apex'i VAFC


What I can get next is:

DTR header
Kenji's p28 ecu
Valvesprings and retainers
Bigger TB

Now these, I can get alot earlier.


What to do...

 

IMO, you car is too far along with your N/A plans to boost it.

 

All moda is cool.

 

All motor is way cool than the darkside. Just keep up the good work!

 

all motor

 

throw in some CTR pistons y0

 

stay N/A
you'll miss the sound of that bad boy opening up

 

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not really!
he got most bolt ons
have not even raised the compression
regardles when he cracks the engine open thats when you really decide
the only things that I see is the headers and skunk 2 intake manifold
but if you want to continue with NA
forget the ta retainers
just start working on springs higher cams
raise the compression get a good fuel management or
a chipped ecu.
wich is a lot cheaper than boosting it

 

I'd stick with N/A. If you ask me turbo is the easy way out, it takes a real tuner to squeeze that much natural power from that little cuisinart! I respect people who get mad power out of purely tuned engines. GO WIT DA MOTAH

 

NA

 

let me be the first one to say , BOOST that bitch

 

in either route, you'll always be deciding on what to do next. If you turbo it you'll always be going for resleeving, lowering compression, more tuning, and bigger turbos...

all motor is the same...you'll dump a bunch of money in to build the block or more compression, and definately TONS of tuning....

I say see what you can get out of your current setup. Get the better header and valvesprings and ECU, and then GO TUNE!

these cars are fun with whatever you do to them...once you get a decent suspension, good set of brakes and tires, and then a reasonably peppy motor.

eventually the need for speed strikes us all....going big-time turbo, but I say there's tons of fun to be had learning how to out-maneuver and outdrive a 200hp NA-built Integra.

 

Id stick with NA man - Grab up those parts (and some injectors too please) and see if you cant beat me out

No for real though - its been cool building up the NA route with you the past year or whatever - Itd be a shame a to stop so far along.

 

all motor

 

My original setup, CAI, DC Header, MSD Ignition, RSR Exhaust, and NOS nitrous system doesn't even come close to the setup I have now. See Sig. GO WITH BOOST!

 

why go through all the trouble?

The Skunk2 Stage 1 have too much overlap for turbo IMO. You need a cam with more duration not lift. Hence a turbo cam.

 

Turbo.. if Bank of Momerica approves.

 

Stay N/A.....

you've got a good setup going already. keep going with it and see if you make 200whp all motor

 

i was in the same exact predicament. i decided to go boost, but i got scammed for a turbo kit, so i'm staying na. your car is pretty fast with your mods. you need to really ask yourself if you want to make lots of power or just feel the boost? If you want feel the power of boost and the bov, then go turbo, but you can easily be as fast with your setup by getting bigger cams and built head.


Turbo also can be very realiable as well, as long as you don't go crazy and starting boosting 15lbs. Now there will be more up keeping to do? You would have to turbo time your car, weekly checks on all your lines, and oil changes every 2000-2500 miles.

This is just my opinion of the subject.

I also posted a smiliar topic. Check it out.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=548270

 

You can sell most of your parts and make good money off them - Leaving you with probably about $1500 or so to save.. I'm in the same boat - I have still to decide between the two which is why my motor continues to be stock..

All-motor is hella fun... and more respectable to get 200whp out of a lil 1.8 as compared to just dropping boost on it..

but I'll tell you this..

Take a ride in a turbo gsr.. or any car for that matter, and let that be your answer.. was for me

 

turbo

 

In your case, Naturally Aspirated.

I have to agree with the opinions that you've already spent enough on NA mods, why start over for a turbo?

Seems like you could do more internal work on the motor, get a few more bolt-ons, and get an ECU that is more sport oriented. That will make a nice motor, smoother power-band without tuning done, and reliability is better (though, that depends on how you drive, really..).

BUT, if you have to get some boost, why not a Supercharger? Get one like a Jackson Racing type, that way you can maintain a majority of your already "on-car" parts and still add boost. May not be as fun or involved as a turbocharger, but if you must have boost in your car, it's another possibility.

 

boost it

 

I would stay NA and see how much power you can get with a maxed out head and bolt ons

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P1mpSlap &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why go through all the trouble?

The Skunk2 Stage 1 have too much overlap for turbo IMO. You need a cam with more duration not lift. Hence a turbo cam.

</TD></TR></TABLE>Actually, turbo cams love lift and not too much duration(hence overlap)

anyways Skunk2nr, i asked the same exact question a few weeks ago. its really hard to pick. i came down to this. id rather spend 3000 building my motor w/ 85mm sleeves, 12:1 slugs, and probe rods, etc. all that adds to about 1600ish if you build it yourself(which i will be) that leaves me plenty of money to do other things like suspension and brakes, etc.(like i just bought JIC flt-a2's).

also ask yourself what kind of races you want to do in the future: auto-x, road race(my personal preferences), or drag. turbo is easiest for drag but the other to are excellent for all motor. hope this helps.