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Yes but all PR3 head motors have VTEC set at 6000rpms. The B17 has a PR3 head. Even the type R has VTEC set at 6000rpms.


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No.

 

just get a vtec controller and set that bitch at 3k. problem solved! haha!

 

around 4 rpm

 

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where are u getting this info from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

ECU code and Honda Manuals

P61 code says VTEC activates at 6000rpms.

P30 code activates at 5900rpms. Someone will chime in with "see it's not 6000." :rolleyes

Honda Service manual for Type R says VTEC activates at 6000rpms.


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Both of you are retards. If you think that I am incorrect then show proof.

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ECU code and Honda Manuals

P61 code says VTEC activates at 6000rpms.

P30 code activates at 5900rpms. Someone will chime in with "see it's not 6000." :rolleyes

Honda Service manual for Type R says VTEC activates at 6000rpms.

Both of you are retards. If you think that I am incorrect then show proof.

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what a newb....what kinda service manual do you have?

 

94-01 gsr v-tec= 4400rpm, IAB= 5750rpm...call it a day

 

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3k?...way too low!...feels like crap and won't even gain power in the highend...anywhere from 5k or higher is best..but a dyno tune will prove where vtec should engage, if you plan on using a vtec controller or chipped ecu..etc.

 

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None of the Helm manuals (the only official manuals endorsed by Honda or Acura) list the VTEC engagement points. The B18C1 USDM IAB (intake air bypass) engagement is listed as 5750 RPM in the Helm.

This little tidbit from Car & Driver was reprinted and distributed by Acura. It states in the acticle that the 1997 USDM ITR with the PR3 cylinder has a VTEC engagement point of 5700 RPM. That is all that I need to disprove this:

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Yes but all PR3 head motors have VTEC set at 6000rpms. The B17 has a PR3 head. Even the type R has VTEC set at 6000rpms.


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March 1997 Car & Driver Text by Barry Winfield

And of course, there are scans of this article:

 

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None of the Helm manuals (the only official manuals endorsed by Honda or Acura) list the VTEC engagement points. The B18C1 USDM IAB (intake air bypass) engagement is listed as 5750 RPM in the Helm.

This little tidbit from Car & Driver was reprinted and distributed by Acura. It states in the acticle that the 1997 USDM ITR with the PR3 cylinder has a VTEC engagement point of 5700 RPM. That is all that I need to disprove this:
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The helms service manual lists it under troubleshooting the VTEC system, but that might be for low load, so it's probably lower for WOT.

Reguardless the stock P61 ecu for the 92-93 GSR has VTEC activation at 6000.


Magazines are well-known for misprinting.

And it does. In the article is says VTEC is different from the specs on the last page.


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The helms service manual lists it under troubleshooting the VTEC system, but that might be for low load, so it's probably lower for WOT.

Reguardless the stock P61 ecu for the 92-93 GSR has VTEC activation at 6000.


Magazines are well-known for misprinting.

And it does. In the article is says VTEC is different from the specs on the last page.


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The last page of the ITR article states VTEC as 5700(engage)/5400(disengage) for WOT and 5900(engage)/5600(disengage) for partial throttle. That last page in particular was published by Acura, not Car&Driver. I have shown all the proof that is needed regarding all PR3 heads.

BTW, bith the '94, '97, and '98 Integra Service manuals only state to rev the engine above 6000 RPM to check VTEC operation. They never disclose the true engagement point.

 

why dont u do a slow cruise and just see when vtec kicks in. shouldnt ur car jump a lil when it does :]

 

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ECU code and Honda Manuals

P61 code says VTEC activates at 6000rpms.

P30 code activates at 5900rpms. Someone will chime in with "see it's not 6000." :rolleyes

Honda Service manual for Type R says VTEC activates at 6000rpms.

Both of you are retards. If you think that I am incorrect then show proof.

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dude i cant beleive you are still arguing this. I dont know about the type r but I have owned a 92 gsr. It was completely stock except for I/H/E. I drove it for 3 years as a daily driver and i know the exact point of the vtec engagement VERY well....

5600 rpm's

 

Stock GSR's engage V-Tec at 4400.

Don't let your ears tell you when V-Tec is actually engaging. If you think V-Tec engages at 5500 or so.. you've been wasting gas for a long time =[.

 

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dude i cant beleive you are still arguing this. I dont know about the type r but I have owned a 92 gsr. It was completely stock except for I/H/E. I drove it for 3 years as a daily driver and i know the exact point of the vtec engagement VERY well....

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Because, discussions bring out the truth. In HT world you have to try hard to get others to prove something with facts and research. Otherwise a stupid answer of yes/no will arise.


Anyway, you guys are right, I was looking at the partial throttle engauge point. It is 6000, At WOT it is 5600.

 

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Because, discussions bring out the truth. In HT world you have to try hard to get others to prove something with facts and research. Otherwise a stupid answer of yes/no will arise.


Anyway, you guys are right, I was looking at the partial throttle engauge point. It is 6000, At WOT it is 5600.


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See, you should listen to people that say they have owned one before and they know what they are talking about. So:

 

5,600

 

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See, you should listen to people that say they have owned one before and they know what they are talking about</TD></TR></TABLE>


Shut it retard. I look at facts, not dumbf*ucks who just say so. It is ignorant to freely believe what someone else says without questioning it.

Props to Dogginator for bringing proof on the Type R.

You(HoUTX98GSR) are still an *** who thinks that a stock tach is so precise. Sorry, bud, I see it here in the code which IS proof.


Don't bring your little BS near me again.


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the question was about a 92-93 gsr b17 not a b18 there vtec engagement is different 56 for the b17 and 44 for the b18

 

Around 4500 and the IAB should kick in around 6600

 

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... no

 

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Shut it retard. I look at facts, not dumbf*ucks who just say so. It is ignorant to freely believe what someone else says without questioning it.

Props to Dogginator for bringing proof on the Type R.

You(HoUTX98GSR) are still an *** who thinks that a stock tach is so precise. Sorry, bud, I see it here in the code which IS proof.


Don't bring your little BS near me again.


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dumbfuck???? whos the dumbfuck??? you were one that argued and ended up being wrong becuase you were looking at your "code". Thats what you get for depending on your ability to read the "code" rather than listen to other people on the forum that know what they are talking about.

and i looked for proof all over the net and i couldnt find it. I dont have my helms manual for it anymore and i dont think it would be in there anyway.

and i know how precise the tach was because i installed a fields controller on it at one point.

So what little BS are you reffering to?

Is it 6000 rpm like you said or is it 5600 like i said, smart guy?

 

Is a da easy to convert to a vtech set up

 

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That has got to be a joke.

 

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