Alright any of you guys running a LS with teh stock head...what kind of whp are you guys making? I am thinking of getting teh Jackson Racing supercharger mid-summer time and just want to get an idea of what kind of power you guys are making....

Ben

 

I have seen countless threads from people on this forum with the JRSC on an LS and I can't remember even 1 of them being happy with it. I was originally thinking about getting one for mine but I decided to start researching a small turbo set up after all of the bad stuff I read about it. If you serach you'll hear pretty much nothing but bad reviews for the JRSC LS. I hear it's a beast on the GSR though. good luck with whatever you decide to do.

 

Personally I'd turbo an LS and SC a GSR.

defintely search this one

 

turbo the ls

 

ive heard turbo over super on all models (not trying to start the notorious arguement), simply b/c turbos push out loads more power. I read somewhere the JRSC only adds about 40 horse, given its through the whole powerband.

 

I think I am going to go turbo. I am looking at a kit right now...

 

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good choice...
-Mike

 

The other thing I wanted to ask was how many miles a turbo should have before it needs to be re-built? I am looking at a used kti right now and the turbo has about 5000 miles on it. I am not planning on beating on it at any time, no nitrous, and no more then 10 psi....

 

Just in case you were still wondering, dump the JRSC idea. It's a big piece of crap. Secondly, unless you know exactly how that used turbo was treated and it does in fact have only 5k miles on it, get it rebuilt. You don't want to install it just to have to pull it out to rebuild it. Should cost about $350 give or take to rebuild. Then you KNOW it's good. That's my 2 cents. Don't spend it all in one place.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scho01sux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive heard turbo over super on all models (not trying to start the notorious arguement), simply b/c turbos push out loads more power. I read somewhere the JRSC only adds about 40 horse, given its through the whole powerband.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That whole statement is contradictory

 

I saw a B18b make about 170 whp at 6psi. Not worth the $2000 initially spent IMO.

 

keep researching b/c its the total area under the curve(on a dyno graph) not the peak hp gained

...of course among other factors

 

Thanks for the info guys. Where would you suggest getting teh turbo re-built? Locally?

 

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**** 170 whp on 6psi aint that bad.....

 

Turbo that LS man

 

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That whole statement is contradictory
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well i dont know anything other than ive read, im by no means claiming i know much about it, but ive heard turbos will add 60+ to a system. and yes, i know numbers arent the only factor to figuring out the system. and i would think if tuned right, turbo lag would be minimal, but i couldnt tell there. I never have any money to buy anything, let alone an FI system. heh

 

tuning doesnt have much to do with turbo lag. turbo lag is due to the low amount of exhaust pressure that can spin the turbines. that depends on the size of the turbo.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quiksheit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">keep researching b/c its the total area under the curve(on a dyno graph) not the peak hp gained

...of course among other factors</TD></TR></TABLE>

Area under the curve? I guess I could calculate that but keep in mind that the peak HP number will tell you SOMETHING about the cars power. 170 whp for over $2000 is not worth it IMO, doesnt matter how much area is under that curve

 

Turbo Lag is your traction in a Honda , and you'll never be able to push as much psi with a SC as you would a Turbo.

 

a vortech system with aftercooler on a GSR is just straight up MEAN. my cousin just got one put on his a couple of weeks ago and on the website it says a stock gsr with exhaust and the kit comes right at 275whp. he hasn't gotten it dyno tuned yet but coming very soon. i'll post results.

Also my friend Josh has a Jackson Racing S/C on his LS.....hahahahahaha..enough said. by the way hes already had to put 3 belts on it and has only had it 8 months. now hes experiencing a boost leak. in his words. jrsc's are pos's

 

^^^ That prolly explains why they are $1000 cheaper at my sponsor....

 

dollar/hp ratio is a lot better with turbo than s/c. plus i hear the top end sucks with s/c. 2 cents

 

Well I am going to go turbo then. Thanks for the info guys.

 

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Again... you should read this. it talks about peak hp myths

http://www.team-integra.net/se...D=286

BTW you can also get a used sc kit for about half what it is new. Ppl should research more before they jump into something as complex as the FI'ed world

 

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Again... you should read this. it talks about peak hp myths

http://www.team-integra.net/se...D=286

BTW you can also get a used sc kit for about half what it is new. Ppl should research more before they jump into something as complex as the FI'ed world</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what exactly are you saying? Are you telling mE the JRSC is a good improvement for an intEgra LS? People still have mixed opinions with the JRSC and the B18c1. I am a long term team integra member and I have read MOST of the articles. Do you speak from experience or are you just posting links and restating things you've read on the internet? Do you have/driven a JRSC on your LS and are extremely happy with it? I'm not trying to argue with you, I just need you to say exactly what you mean instead of telling the thread starter to "research." share your knowledge

Ben: My best friend has a Ls and I have spent countless hours in her garage getting the damn thing to run right. I have not written any articles on team-integra but I think real world experience and watching someone else make the same mistake you are about to make has some weight. It is funny because we finally got the charger working on her LS and when she drives my bolt on gsr she comments on how fast it is If you have questions for someone that actually has the SC'er (and is desperately selling parts so she can go turbo) PM me and I will be glad to give you her AIM screen name. Honestly I have not seen/read/ heard about anyone happy with a jrsc on an intEgra LS.


EDIT..my bad with the spelling errors. Give me a break it was 5 in the morning over here.


Modified by BlackSage at 8:37 AM 1/28/2005