Spoon Engine?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JThrasher79 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its just a stock type-r motor hand built to spoon's tolerances. not worth the coin if you ask me..
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you ever ridden in one?
</TD></TR></TABLE>you ever ridden in one?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcMONSTER »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you ever ridden in one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
how exactly do you ride in a B18C?
you ever ridden in one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
how exactly do you ride in a B18C?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H23 Power »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how exactly do you ride in a B18C?</TD></TR></TABLE>
sarcasm > this thread
how exactly do you ride in a B18C?</TD></TR></TABLE>
sarcasm > this thread
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaRacerMJA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spoon engines can twist to 11 grand all day long and still be making power. worth every penny if you can afford it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong.
Wrong.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcMONSTER »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you ever ridden in one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no i have never ridden in a spoon b18c powered car because i have yet to meet somone stupid enough or rich enough to spend that much on a stock hype-r motor
you ever ridden in one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no i have never ridden in a spoon b18c powered car because i have yet to meet somone stupid enough or rich enough to spend that much on a stock hype-r motor
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaRacerMJA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spoon engines can twist to 11 grand all day long and still be making power. worth every penny if you can afford it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
idiot
idiot
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaRacerMJA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong how? got a friend with one in his crx, pulls like hell at 11K. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Please post a dyno chart of your friend's Spoon engine that makes power at 11k rpm or be banned.
Please post a dyno chart of your friend's Spoon engine that makes power at 11k rpm or be banned.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackDC4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just swapped my LS with a Spoon LS..........they made it for me,my uncle is Mr.Spoon we hang out and stuff,he's a cool guy i guess.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahaha
hahahaha
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaRacerMJA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong how? got a friend with one in his crx, pulls like hell at 11K. </TD></TR></TABLE>
it's an n1 motor..no mods other than boosted compression, why does that mean that their b18c can pull at 11k but my b18c5 can't? must be the jdm pistons.
it's an n1 motor..no mods other than boosted compression, why does that mean that their b18c can pull at 11k but my b18c5 can't? must be the jdm pistons.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silver j »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
it's an n1 motor..no mods other than boosted compression, why does that mean that their b18c can pull at 11k but my b18c5 can't? must be the jdm pistons. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Gots to be the JDM Pistons
it's an n1 motor..no mods other than boosted compression, why does that mean that their b18c can pull at 11k but my b18c5 can't? must be the jdm pistons. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Gots to be the JDM Pistons
LOL @ misinformation..
yo, my brother's friend's cousin, has a girlfriend who knows this guy that used to date this chick who's uncle worked for spoon. well, I heard he had a spoon engine in his EK that revved to 18,000 rpm, like an F1 motor.
yo, my brother's friend's cousin, has a girlfriend who knows this guy that used to date this chick who's uncle worked for spoon. well, I heard he had a spoon engine in his EK that revved to 18,000 rpm, like an F1 motor.
ok i found this on Honda-Acura.com
basically to clean up all this **** that this thread is covered in here it is:
Here are the details of the Spoon "engine" / longblock once again:
- it is a new 98 spec R longblock
- internal components are JDM OE Honda with the following exceptions
- it is fully balanced and blueprinted
- it uses the Spoon 2 piece headgasket for a compression ratio of 11.3:1
- it uses the Spoon oil pump which is stronger and more effective than the OE Honda one
- it should put out around 180hp at the wheel
what is 'balanced and blueprinted by Spoon'?
- all engine components are weighed to 0.01grams precision
- engine components such as pistons and rods are balanced, they all weigh within 0.01gram of each other
- Spoon is able to balance these components because they order/weigh/sort hundreds of pistons, rods, etc. from Honda and sort them into balanced sets
- bolts are torqued within 0.01N/M of Honda specs
- what does balancing and blueprinting do? it makes the engine run incredibly smooth, reduces power lost to inefficiency, power delivery is extremely smooth, power is higher across the entire rpm band compared to a Honda assembled engine, engine/throttle response is much better, the engine revs smoother/faster and is able to withstand high rpm better, engine life is improved considerably especially in race environments
why does Spoon offer this engine?
- Spoon's core philosophy is in balance: good power, good driving feel, and long life. this engine offers all
- circuit racing requirements differ from drag racing: an engine with the aforementioned characteristics is preferred in circuit racing over a high power, less reliable engine which might be favored in drag racing
- these engines are frequently bought by pro race teams competing according to FIA Group N regulations which require stock internal motors. hence they need an engine which has maximum effectiveness and efficiency using stock parts
who should consider a Spoon engine?
- pro/amateur racers requiring a motor in stock trim (FIA Group N)
- circuit racers/enthusiasts who want an optimized stock motor for circuit use
- people who want a new stock or reliable motor with decent power
who shouldn't consider a Spoon engine?
- drag racers
- people on tight budget or DIY
- people who want a high power setup, N/A or Turbo
- people who don't care about or aren't sensitive to subjective intangibles such as driving feel or engine response
what is the price of a Spoon engine or block?
- it is priced comparably to the price of a new b18c5 longblock/shortblock from Acura considering the work Spoon has put into it
- remember it is a NEW longblock/shortblock
- price fluctuates with supply and demand, although spoon engines aren't common here, remember that they are very common and popular in Japan and Asia
- expect price to increase over time as the supply of b18c components dwindles
- contact an authorized Spoon dealer such as IPS, R&D, A&J for a price quote
does/why doesn't Spoon offer a high power engine?
- again, Spoon's philosophy is balance. to Spoon, high power is only worthwhile if the engine can endure the stress of a 24 hour race. to Spoon, a street tuned engine needs to be comfortable and reliable while delivering improved power and driving feel
- Spoon has built and sold high power engines with 200+whp... high compression kits and stroker kits including a 2L kit for the 18C. However, the reliability and engine life of these engines still aren't good enough for Spoon's standards and hence Spoon does not offer them anymore
- Spoon doesn't drag race
basically to clean up all this **** that this thread is covered in here it is:
Here are the details of the Spoon "engine" / longblock once again:
- it is a new 98 spec R longblock
- internal components are JDM OE Honda with the following exceptions
- it is fully balanced and blueprinted
- it uses the Spoon 2 piece headgasket for a compression ratio of 11.3:1
- it uses the Spoon oil pump which is stronger and more effective than the OE Honda one
- it should put out around 180hp at the wheel
what is 'balanced and blueprinted by Spoon'?
- all engine components are weighed to 0.01grams precision
- engine components such as pistons and rods are balanced, they all weigh within 0.01gram of each other
- Spoon is able to balance these components because they order/weigh/sort hundreds of pistons, rods, etc. from Honda and sort them into balanced sets
- bolts are torqued within 0.01N/M of Honda specs
- what does balancing and blueprinting do? it makes the engine run incredibly smooth, reduces power lost to inefficiency, power delivery is extremely smooth, power is higher across the entire rpm band compared to a Honda assembled engine, engine/throttle response is much better, the engine revs smoother/faster and is able to withstand high rpm better, engine life is improved considerably especially in race environments
why does Spoon offer this engine?
- Spoon's core philosophy is in balance: good power, good driving feel, and long life. this engine offers all
- circuit racing requirements differ from drag racing: an engine with the aforementioned characteristics is preferred in circuit racing over a high power, less reliable engine which might be favored in drag racing
- these engines are frequently bought by pro race teams competing according to FIA Group N regulations which require stock internal motors. hence they need an engine which has maximum effectiveness and efficiency using stock parts
who should consider a Spoon engine?
- pro/amateur racers requiring a motor in stock trim (FIA Group N)
- circuit racers/enthusiasts who want an optimized stock motor for circuit use
- people who want a new stock or reliable motor with decent power
who shouldn't consider a Spoon engine?
- drag racers
- people on tight budget or DIY
- people who want a high power setup, N/A or Turbo
- people who don't care about or aren't sensitive to subjective intangibles such as driving feel or engine response
what is the price of a Spoon engine or block?
- it is priced comparably to the price of a new b18c5 longblock/shortblock from Acura considering the work Spoon has put into it
- remember it is a NEW longblock/shortblock
- price fluctuates with supply and demand, although spoon engines aren't common here, remember that they are very common and popular in Japan and Asia
- expect price to increase over time as the supply of b18c components dwindles
- contact an authorized Spoon dealer such as IPS, R&D, A&J for a price quote
does/why doesn't Spoon offer a high power engine?
- again, Spoon's philosophy is balance. to Spoon, high power is only worthwhile if the engine can endure the stress of a 24 hour race. to Spoon, a street tuned engine needs to be comfortable and reliable while delivering improved power and driving feel
- Spoon has built and sold high power engines with 200+whp... high compression kits and stroker kits including a 2L kit for the 18C. However, the reliability and engine life of these engines still aren't good enough for Spoon's standards and hence Spoon does not offer them anymore
- Spoon doesn't drag race
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by koco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the gallo 16 is better
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thought it was the 24? it's the 16 after all eh?
Thank you to ComptonsF1NEST for ending the whole thing...I don't understand why the point hasn't been made that it's a pointless investment....?
BUILD YOUR OWN SH*T!
</TD></TR></TABLE>thought it was the 24? it's the 16 after all eh?
Thank you to ComptonsF1NEST for ending the whole thing...I don't understand why the point hasn't been made that it's a pointless investment....?
BUILD YOUR OWN SH*T!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silver j »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i never understood why they didn't at least include the yellow valve cover, at least the j's motor has their valve cover.</TD></TR></TABLE>
cus when its red, people think type R so that means 5 times the amout of people are likely to buy it.
personally i think its pointless for 6-7k (unless your some krAzie ricer who races crazy and needs it
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also: if doesnt have a fatty R on it i wont buy it
cus when its red, people think type R so that means 5 times the amout of people are likely to buy it.
personally i think its pointless for 6-7k (unless your some krAzie ricer who races crazy and needs it
)also: if doesnt have a fatty R on it i wont buy it
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1337whp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also: if doesnt have a fatty R on it i wont buy it
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I think at this point of admitted info we might be able to call you a closet ricer
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</TD></TR></TABLE>I think at this point of admitted info we might be able to call you a closet ricer
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