Spoon Engine?
i hear all of this hype about spoon engines and stuff but i never see or hear any real solid info. are they an engine that is manufactured specificly by spoon or is it a re-built engine. I just want to know stuff like power, tq, price, redline, maybe some pics, just regular stats
i think its a rebuilt engine, because i was on ebay motors, and a came across a spoon engine, and thought that was a little funny cuz i never heard of it before, but yeah its probably a rebuilt engine
If you read the description on Inline Four it states that the Spoon longblock is a brand new long block that Spoon purchases from Honda then proceeds to disassemble, balance, blue print, then reassemble. It's a completely stock motor that's just been balanced and has a 2-ply Spoon head gasket.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ComptonsF1NEST »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so it redlines at 11k?</TD></TR></TABLE> No, not at all. Since it's a stock motor it wouldn't even make power that high, nor would it be safe to rev that high.
- it is a new 98 spec R longblock
- internal components are JDM OE Honda with the following exceptions
- it is fully balanced and blueprinted
- it uses the Spoon 2 piece headgasket for a compression ratio of 11.3:1
- it uses the Spoon oil pump which is stronger and more effective than the OE Honda one
- it should put out around 180hp at the wheel
what is 'balanced and blueprinted by Spoon'?
- all engine components are weighed to 0.01grams precision
- engine components such as pistons and rods are balanced, they all weigh within 0.01gram of each other
- Spoon is able to balance these components because they order/weigh/sort hundreds of pistons, rods, etc. from Honda and sort them into balanced sets
- bolts are torqued within 0.01N/M of Honda specs
- what does balancing and blueprinting do? it makes the engine run incredibly smooth, reduces power lost to inefficiency, power delivery is extremely smooth, power is higher across the entire rpm band compared to a Honda assembled engine, engine/throttle response is much better, the engine revs smoother/faster and is able to withstand high rpm better, engine life is improved considerably especially in race environments
why does Spoon offer this engine?
- Spoon's core philosophy is in balance: good power, good driving feel, and long life. this engine offers all
- circuit racing requirements differ from drag racing: an engine with the aforementioned characteristics is preferred in circuit racing over a high power, less reliable engine which might be favored in drag racing
- these engines are frequently bought by pro race teams competing according to FIA Group N regulations which require stock internal motors. hence they need an engine which has maximum effectiveness and efficiency using stock parts
who should consider a Spoon engine?
- pro/amateur racers requiring a motor in stock trim (FIA Group N)
- circuit racers/enthusiasts who want an optimized stock motor for circuit use
- people who want a new stock or reliable motor with decent power
who shouldn't consider a Spoon engine?
- drag racers
- people on tight budget or DIY
- people who want a high power setup, N/A or Turbo
- people who don't care about or aren't sensitive to subjective intangibles such as driving feel or engine response
what is the price of a Spoon engine or block?
- it is priced comparably to the price of a new b18c5 longblock/shortblock from Acura considering the work Spoon has put into it
- remember it is a NEW longblock/shortblock
- price fluctuates with supply and demand, although spoon engines aren't common here, remember that they are very common and popular in Japan and Asia
- expect price to increase over time as the supply of b18c components dwindles
- contact an authorized Spoon dealer such as IPS, R&D, A&J for a price quote
does/why doesn't Spoon offer a high power engine?
- again, Spoon's philosophy is balance. to Spoon, high power is only worthwhile if the engine can endure the stress of a 24 hour race. to Spoon, a street tuned engine needs to be comfortable and reliable while delivering improved power and driving feel
- Spoon has built and sold high power engines with 200+whp... high compression kits and stroker kits including a 2L kit for the 18C. However, the reliability and engine life of these engines still aren't good enough for Spoon's standards and hence Spoon does not offer them anymore
- Spoon doesn't drag race
- internal components are JDM OE Honda with the following exceptions
- it is fully balanced and blueprinted
- it uses the Spoon 2 piece headgasket for a compression ratio of 11.3:1
- it uses the Spoon oil pump which is stronger and more effective than the OE Honda one
- it should put out around 180hp at the wheel
what is 'balanced and blueprinted by Spoon'?
- all engine components are weighed to 0.01grams precision
- engine components such as pistons and rods are balanced, they all weigh within 0.01gram of each other
- Spoon is able to balance these components because they order/weigh/sort hundreds of pistons, rods, etc. from Honda and sort them into balanced sets
- bolts are torqued within 0.01N/M of Honda specs
- what does balancing and blueprinting do? it makes the engine run incredibly smooth, reduces power lost to inefficiency, power delivery is extremely smooth, power is higher across the entire rpm band compared to a Honda assembled engine, engine/throttle response is much better, the engine revs smoother/faster and is able to withstand high rpm better, engine life is improved considerably especially in race environments
why does Spoon offer this engine?
- Spoon's core philosophy is in balance: good power, good driving feel, and long life. this engine offers all
- circuit racing requirements differ from drag racing: an engine with the aforementioned characteristics is preferred in circuit racing over a high power, less reliable engine which might be favored in drag racing
- these engines are frequently bought by pro race teams competing according to FIA Group N regulations which require stock internal motors. hence they need an engine which has maximum effectiveness and efficiency using stock parts
who should consider a Spoon engine?
- pro/amateur racers requiring a motor in stock trim (FIA Group N)
- circuit racers/enthusiasts who want an optimized stock motor for circuit use
- people who want a new stock or reliable motor with decent power
who shouldn't consider a Spoon engine?
- drag racers
- people on tight budget or DIY
- people who want a high power setup, N/A or Turbo
- people who don't care about or aren't sensitive to subjective intangibles such as driving feel or engine response
what is the price of a Spoon engine or block?
- it is priced comparably to the price of a new b18c5 longblock/shortblock from Acura considering the work Spoon has put into it
- remember it is a NEW longblock/shortblock
- price fluctuates with supply and demand, although spoon engines aren't common here, remember that they are very common and popular in Japan and Asia
- expect price to increase over time as the supply of b18c components dwindles
- contact an authorized Spoon dealer such as IPS, R&D, A&J for a price quote
does/why doesn't Spoon offer a high power engine?
- again, Spoon's philosophy is balance. to Spoon, high power is only worthwhile if the engine can endure the stress of a 24 hour race. to Spoon, a street tuned engine needs to be comfortable and reliable while delivering improved power and driving feel
- Spoon has built and sold high power engines with 200+whp... high compression kits and stroker kits including a 2L kit for the 18C. However, the reliability and engine life of these engines still aren't good enough for Spoon's standards and hence Spoon does not offer them anymore
- Spoon doesn't drag race
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deadend9009 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought they revved up to 16k. They're fo sure rev happy.</TD></TR></TABLE> Someone plays a little too much Gran Turismo
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .brian. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hector is going to be running 3 honda civics with spoon engines!</TD></TR></TABLE>
you said it before me
you said it before me
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpoonSirG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wherever schmoo is, hes always got an excellent answer.
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Thank you sir. I just cut and pasted, though.
It just rules out all the bullshit and misnomers about these overhyped motors made popular by a movie that real tuners dispise...and even they couldn't get it right.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thank you sir. I just cut and pasted, though.

It just rules out all the bullshit and misnomers about these overhyped motors made popular by a movie that real tuners dispise...and even they couldn't get it right.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .brian. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hector is going to be running 3 honda civics with spoon engines!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh no here we go with the F&F quotes
Oh no here we go with the F&F quotes
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ohsnapzafingcu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard spoon engines make power all the way to 12k</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow
that's a first.
Wow
that's a first.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ohsnapzafingcu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard spoon engines make power all the way to 12k</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong. At least the publicly sold ones don't.
Wrong. At least the publicly sold ones don't.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .brian. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hector is going to be running 3 honda civics with spoon engines!</TD></TR></TABLE>
must not be too expensive, cuz a couple sr 20s pull a premium a week before race wars
must not be too expensive, cuz a couple sr 20s pull a premium a week before race wars




