i never said the cars handled flat out of the box and yes like almost any other car from the factory does have a certain amount of body roll, to say that its excessive is just wrong, try driving a Buick Park Avenue sometime and tell me about body roll

more emphasis should be placed on real handling improvement rather than just minimizing body roll, just because a car doesnt roll doesnt really mean that that by itself makes it a good handling car

i never said the cars handled flat out of the box and yes like almost any other car from the factory does have a certain amount of body roll, to say that its excessive is just wrong, try driving a Buick Park Avenue sometime and tell me about body roll

more emphasis should be placed on real handling improvement rather than just minimizing body roll, just because a car doesnt roll doesnt really mean that that by itself makes it a good handling car

No doubt, installing stiffer springs, shocks, and roll bars will definitely cut down on body roll, but if all that is used with stock tires, the car will slide all over the place and handle horribly. You need to upgrade tires AND suspension at the same time to get the most out of each part.

a stock GSR isnt what i would call a rocket but its a pretty fast car

Not really. If you think about it, aside from people who want to look cool, most people lower their cars to change the handling characteristic of their car(ie-understeer/oversteer) Stock Integras(R aside) all understeer like a pig at the limit. Just by changing the shocks, springs and rear sway, you not only reduce body roll, but you take most if not all, depending on setup, of the understeer out of the car. So now you have a better handling car, but with the same amount of overall grip. This is where tires come in, get what im saying?

Not really. If you think about it, aside from people who want to look cool, most people lower their cars to change the handling characteristic of their car(ie-understeer/oversteer) Stock Integras(R aside) all understeer like a pig at the limit. Just by changing the shocks, springs and rear sway, you not only reduce body roll, but you take most if not all, depending on setup, of the understeer out of the car. So now you have a better handling car, but with the same amount of overall grip. This is where tires come in, get what im saying?

well I was talking more from a physics standpoint. With stock suspension, when the car goes through a corner, there is a certain amount of lateral forces (G forces) pushing on the car. Some of these forces are taken in by the suspension (which makes for body roll) and some of it is taken by the tires (overall grip). If you upgrade suspension for less body roll, the suspension is now resisting more of those lateral forces, and so the tires now have to take more of the lateral forces, reducing overall grip. If you upgrade the tires on stock suspension, the tires now resist more of those forces (more overall grip), but now the suspension has to take more of those forces and so the body leans sideways more. If you upgrade all of these things, then all of it resists those forces, so you have less body roll AND increased grip.

The reason that car looks so high is because of the tires that are on there. I'm willing to be that those are 195/50-15 size tires, in fact I almost guarantee it. Most people buy the 195/50 size because it's cheaper than the OEM 195/55, but the 195/50s have a shorter sidewall and increase wheel gap, not to mention throw off the speedo/odo.

If you want to take away the "4x4 look," without lowering, I'd suggest to spend a little more and buy the proper tire sizes - 195/55-15 or 205/50-15.

Actually they are 205/50-15

what exactly is under your hood making it a sleeper and not just a stock GSR with a wing?