mcyang87

I found this kit for LS/Vtec and it for $259 im not sure if that shipped or not the website is
http://www.usedimportparts.net/lsvtecinfo.html
as anyone try out their kit before? and how was it? is it as good as golden eagle kit?

g3Gsr443

i would recommend golden eagle above anything else

Mfoehrkolb

just get the golden eagle kit. and buy some arp headstuds and rod bolts. then you will be good to go.


EDIT: i was also informed by someone on HT that when you buy a Ls.Vtec kit. they include a GSR Head gasket. I have a Golden eagle kit, and i just went out and bought a LS head gasket. To not even mess around witht hat. no way ima have a leak going on when freshly rebuilt. You can ask around or seatch, but be weary of the kits gasket.

mcyang87

alright i found a kit that included head bolt for 349 shipped is that a good deal?

Mfoehrkolb

what kind of headbolts?

mcyang87

arp head bolt...but i think im gonna change route of ls/vtec cause i don't have enough money to build my bottom block...im on a tight budget of 1500 i think im gonna go with gsr engine and tranny i found one for dirty cheap...my bottom block as 195k on it...i don't know if it safe to run ls/vtec on it...i found all the requirement for the vtec head

ls19integra95

wow, i had my ls bottom end sleeved, bored, assembled, balanced, crank micropolished, new bearings, and type r oil pump for 2300 and that was including all the labor, parts, machine work and shipping my engine back and forth...

to build the bottom end decent enough shouldnt cost you that much... really all you would need to be ok is rods, bearings, rings, and maybe pistons... shouldnt cost you that much to get those few parts and have it assembled and balanced... if your not going turbo or for an insane amount of hp then you shouldnt spend that much on new parts for bottom end because you wont need that high of performance parts...

mcyang87

yeah...i was just planning to ls/vtec and then on the long run turbo it...but that isn't going to happen until i go to college and finish first....i just don't want my motor to blow up because of bad bottom block...i don't have that much cash to throw around :D

ls19integra95

if your not going turbo right away then just go get some oem rods, bearings, and rings so that they are new and stronger then you most likely pretty beat ones... wont cost you that much to get them and have installed...

mcyang87

oem rod, ring and bearing of LS or GSR?

Mfoehrkolb

Ls.vTec done the CORRECT way. isn't cheap. If you go ls.vtec the weakest point int he motor are the connectin rod bolts. So your best bet if you go ls.vtec is to put new arp rod bolts, some new baearings and piston rings. arp headstuds and get a golden eagle kit. w/ a ls head gasket. then your good to go.

-- keep in mind. if you gsr block and head. gsr is 10.0:1 compression. W/ a shorter stroked crank.

quickly ill name some differences between the blocks if you don't know.

GSR: OEM block girdle, oil pumpers per cylinder, direct oil to head thru the block, 9mm connection rod bolts, cranks, stroke length, compression.

ls: 8mm connection rod bolts, longer stroked crank, lower compression. no oem block girdle, oil pumpers, oil jet.

alot of people block off the oil pumpers though to help build oil pressure. and block girdle is only neccsary @ higher rpms. not needed though.

i think thats about it. if anyone would like to add something or edit, go ahead. too lazy to look up stuff right now.
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B18B1

* Non-VTEC
* Found in:
o 1994-2001 Acura Integra "RS/LS/GS" (DC4/DB7)
+ Displacement: 1834 cc
+ Compression: 9.2:1
+ Bore: 81 mm
+ Stroke: 89 mm


B18C1

* VTEC
* Found in:
o 1994-2001 Honda/Acura Integra GS-R (DC2 & DB8)
* Displacement: 1797 cm³
* Compression: 10.0:1
* Bore: 81 mm (3.189")
* Stroke: 87.2 mm (3.433")
* Rod Length: 137.9 mm (5.429")
* Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.58
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mcyang87

ahhh ok...i was thinking about getting all the requirement for the head...and run on that for awhile cause im on a tight budget of 1500....once i get enough money was gonna rebuild the bottom block is that still ok to run ls/vtec?

K2sInteg98

you could just put the head on there using the golden eagle kit and just get a ecu and tune it, but your car should never see over 7k. If you do no work what so ever to the block and studs, you'll have to drive it just like an ls and not try to take it past 7k. If you ask me, thats hard to do because once you have vtec, it will keep pulling as the rpms get higher, 7k comes wayy sooner than you think and you will be tempted.

mcyang87

well... im getting the ls/vtec conversion kit, ecu, tuning, vtec oil pump and water pump i should still not go over 7k?

Mfoehrkolb

as long as you get arp head studs and rod bolts. w/ a new ecu. you can go passed 7k. rod bolts are the main thing though. the stock ls get very weak and fail.

mcyang87

alright coo...that what i was going to get too :D thanks guys

K2sInteg98

yeah even with the water pump and oil pump, you still cant revv past 7k. With the headstuds and rod bolts, you have more room to revv. So do the rod bolts and headstuds while everything is getting worked on and get it done at once so you dont have to pull everything out again to do it later.

Mfoehrkolb

30 bucks for rod bolts, and 100 maybe a bit more for some head studs. good to go.

K2sInteg98

plus the cost to get the rod bolts pressed in.

Mfoehrkolb

you can do it yourself. just have to be patient.

i did mine and my friends myself. i forget the process, but just gotta do it right and take your time.

mcyang87

alright i take my time...but today i also went to look at my buddy 94 GSR motor too

integrag

GO WITH THE LS/VTEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mfoehrkolb

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mcyang87

my cousin has the ls/vtec...he also said go with ls/vtec...i might just go ls/vtec

Mfoehrkolb

you should. the headstuds and rod bolts. MUST. than rev that **** to the moon. and i suggest a p28 ecu.