Quaife Differences
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Quaife Differences
I bought a Quaife from a guy on here. He said it was for a GSR. However, when I got it, it had the bearings like are in a B16 already pressed on it. A friend of mine that works on Hondas said that all GSRs have the Tapered bearings, and that in order to install this diff in a GSR transmission, I'd need tapered bearings for the diff.
Would the same Quaife Diff work in a GSR or ITR or B16 transmission? I'm wondering about this because I know that the ITR LSDs will interchange.
My question is whether or not there is an inherent difference in the GSR/ITR/B16 Quaife LSDs. I had changed my mind, and am looking at possibly putting this diff in a B16 Trans as opposed to a GSR. Is there any marking ON the diff, itself to ascertain which part number it actually is?
Would the same Quaife Diff work in a GSR or ITR or B16 transmission? I'm wondering about this because I know that the ITR LSDs will interchange.
My question is whether or not there is an inherent difference in the GSR/ITR/B16 Quaife LSDs. I had changed my mind, and am looking at possibly putting this diff in a B16 Trans as opposed to a GSR. Is there any marking ON the diff, itself to ascertain which part number it actually is?
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The bolt pattern on the diff for the final drive is different between the GSR/ITR and the other B-series tranny's. I believe you can use either style bearing, check the "feild prep OBX LSD" thread in the tech forum for lots of info.
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Re: (IanB)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IanB »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The bolt pattern on the diff for the final drive is different between the GSR/ITR and the other B-series tranny's. I believe you can use either style bearing, check the "feild prep OBX LSD" thread in the tech forum for lots of info.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it already has a FD gear on it, can it be used in a B16 tranny?
If it already has a FD gear on it, can it be used in a B16 tranny?
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Re: Quaife Differences (C_Rock77)
In 1998, the differential bearings for the GSR were switched from the tapered roller brarings to ball bearings. IMO, the ball bearings are much easier to install. You will need shims for either type of bearing to set the preload (tapered bearings) or clearance (ball bearings).
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Re: Quaife Differences (C_Rock77)
I suggest getting the part number off the Quaife unit and calling them and asking which diff fits which application. Then call Gearspeed and ask about the bearings. Both Quaife and Gearspeed were very friendly and helpful when I had questions.
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Re: Quaife Differences (mc-integra111)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mc-integra111 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I suggest getting the part number off the Quaife unit and calling them and asking which diff fits which application. Then call Gearspeed and ask about the bearings. Both Quaife and Gearspeed were very friendly and helpful when I had questions.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Where do I look for the p/n?
Where do I look for the p/n?
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Re: Quaife Differences (C_Rock77)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C_Rock77 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where do I look for the p/n?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good question, both my units are currently installed in trannies. I think it was on the body somewhere. Should be something like ###.###.### or similar. If its not obvious, might be worth calling Quaife and asking them how to identify which unit it is.
Good question, both my units are currently installed in trannies. I think it was on the body somewhere. Should be something like ###.###.### or similar. If its not obvious, might be worth calling Quaife and asking them how to identify which unit it is.
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Re: Quaife Differences (C_Rock77)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C_Rock77 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Where do I look for the p/n?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The diff will have "QUAIFE" stamped on one side, and then a model number on the other side. If it says "QDF6U" on the top of the other side, it is for a GSR tranny. I believe "QDF1U" is for a b16. There are 5 numbers below that, but I don't know what those mean. Possibly a serial number.
Where do I look for the p/n?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The diff will have "QUAIFE" stamped on one side, and then a model number on the other side. If it says "QDF6U" on the top of the other side, it is for a GSR tranny. I believe "QDF1U" is for a b16. There are 5 numbers below that, but I don't know what those mean. Possibly a serial number.
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This is what I know, because I have a B16 Quaife in a GSR case.
1. If you want to use the B16/LS Diff into a GSR case, you need to use the matching B16 Ring Gear as the bolt patterns are different.
2. If using enclosed diff bearings, you use the bearings that match the case being used ie GSR case GSR Diff Bearings.
3. B16 & GSR Diff bearings ARE different
4. ITR and GSR share the same diff bolt pattern.
1. If you want to use the B16/LS Diff into a GSR case, you need to use the matching B16 Ring Gear as the bolt patterns are different.
2. If using enclosed diff bearings, you use the bearings that match the case being used ie GSR case GSR Diff Bearings.
3. B16 & GSR Diff bearings ARE different
4. ITR and GSR share the same diff bolt pattern.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is what I know, because I have a B16 Quaife in a GSR case.
1. If you want to use the B16/LS Diff into a GSR case, you need to use the matching B16 Ring Gear as the bolt patterns are different.
2. If using enclosed diff bearings, you use the bearings that match the case being used ie GSR case GSR Diff Bearings.
3. B16 & GSR Diff bearings ARE different
4. ITR and GSR share the same diff bolt pattern.
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Would the other way around work as well? Can you use a GSR Quaife in a LS tranny with the GSR ring gear and LS diff bearings?
1. If you want to use the B16/LS Diff into a GSR case, you need to use the matching B16 Ring Gear as the bolt patterns are different.
2. If using enclosed diff bearings, you use the bearings that match the case being used ie GSR case GSR Diff Bearings.
3. B16 & GSR Diff bearings ARE different
4. ITR and GSR share the same diff bolt pattern.
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Would the other way around work as well? Can you use a GSR Quaife in a LS tranny with the GSR ring gear and LS diff bearings?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Max500 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Would the other way around work as well? Can you use a GSR Quaife in a LS tranny with the GSR ring gear and LS diff bearings?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It should, but I have not personally tried it.
Would the other way around work as well? Can you use a GSR Quaife in a LS tranny with the GSR ring gear and LS diff bearings?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It should, but I have not personally tried it.
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Re: Quaife Differences (Dogginator)
does ball bearing can fit in a 95 gsr tranny that use to be tapered...and how to install does to fit cause i try on one side and the bearing will touch the vss gear...
you said to put a shim between the bearing will it work fine..thks
you said to put a shim between the bearing will it work fine..thks
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Re: Quaife Differences (civic_sc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_sc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does ball bearing can fit in a 95 gsr tranny that use to be tapered...and how to install does to fit cause i try on one side and the bearing will touch the vss gear...
you said to put a shim between the bearing will it work fine..thks </TD></TR></TABLE>
The answer to that is in here... http://www.xm-parts.com/articles/hgear/gear.htm
You remove the outer races and use a different shim on the tapered bearing cases
you said to put a shim between the bearing will it work fine..thks </TD></TR></TABLE>
The answer to that is in here... http://www.xm-parts.com/articles/hgear/gear.htm
You remove the outer races and use a different shim on the tapered bearing cases
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Re: Quaife Differences (civic_sc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_sc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does ball bearing can fit in a 95 gsr tranny that use to be tapered...and how to install does to fit cause i try on one side and the bearing will touch the vss gear...
you said to put a shim between the bearing will it work fine..thks </TD></TR></TABLE>
The differential bearings are nowhere near the VSS gear. Yes, the ball bearings are interchangeable with the tapered roller bearings. Both the tapered roller bearings and the ball bearings must be shimmed for proper clearance. The ball bearings are easier to set-up becuase you simply use a feeler gauge.
Check this thread from the FAQ:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=795700
you said to put a shim between the bearing will it work fine..thks </TD></TR></TABLE>
The differential bearings are nowhere near the VSS gear. Yes, the ball bearings are interchangeable with the tapered roller bearings. Both the tapered roller bearings and the ball bearings must be shimmed for proper clearance. The ball bearings are easier to set-up becuase you simply use a feeler gauge.
Check this thread from the FAQ:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=795700
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