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Old May 9, 2012 | 04:28 AM
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Took my 99 integra to my local auto part store to have them check out why I had a check engine light. Came back and said it was bank 1 o2 sensor. He told me it was the upwind sensor. So, I replaced it with a brand new one. I'm still getting the same check engine light with the same code. What's going on? I have an aftermarket header with 2 1/4 in exhaust to a vibrant muffler. I have no catalytic converter. I had to make my own bung for the upwind sensor right as the 4 header pipes go to 1 pipe. (why there wasn't one to begone with, I don't know) and the downwind sensor I didn't have to mess with.

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Old May 9, 2012 | 05:46 AM
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Post the exact code should be like Pxxxx where the xs are numbers
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Old May 12, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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The code is P0135
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Old May 12, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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if you've got no cat, you should be throwing a secondary o2 sensor code as well. is the secondary sensor rewired? has any of the wiring for either sensors been messed with between them and the pcm?
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Old May 12, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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Not for sure. Haven't got that deep with it. The guy I got it from was a big tuner guy so maybe he did something like that. I just don't get it. Maybe the NEW sensor I just put on is bad?
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Old May 12, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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could be. more likely you have a wiring/connection problem though. ignore my previous comment about piggybacking the secondary o2 off the primary. that's a method used on jdm non obd pcm's with dual o2's. i was confusing the situation.

but anyways, what i'd do is get a wiring diagram for the heated o2 circuit and test continuity of the heater wire between the o2 sensor and pcm. if no continuity, find and repair the damaged area of the wire. which could include a connector, so check the pins to make sure there's no backing out.

question though, did this problem just start occurring after the header install?
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Old May 13, 2012 | 01:01 AM
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Ok I'll see if I can find a wiring diagram. When I bought the car a year ago, it already had the header and exhaust on it. The CEL has also been on since I got it
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Old May 13, 2012 | 03:48 AM
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do you have to pass emissions or are you just tired of the check engine light on? How is the fuel economy?
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Old May 13, 2012 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Zac W.
The code is P0135
P0135 is the sensor's heater circuit. Either it's not working, or the wiring is bad and the ECM can't see any current flow on that wire.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRealTegger
P0135 is the sensor's heater circuit. Either it's not working, or the wiring is bad and the ECM can't see any current flow on that wire.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fcluddington
do you have to pass emissions or are you just tired of the check engine light on? How is the fuel economy?
I think I could get a little better mpg. I think last i checked i was at 27 mpg. Thats mainly ALL highwy. And yes I'm tired of looking at the CEL. Lol

Hopefully I can check for continuity today
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Old May 14, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Zac W.
I think I could get a little better mpg. I think last i checked i was at 27 mpg. Thats mainly ALL highwy. And yes I'm tired of looking at the CEL. Lol

Hopefully I can check for continuity today
The only way you lose fuel effiecency is because the heater circuit if not working properly does not preheat the O2 sensor, The sensors love heat and work more effiecently under lots of heat, so you will find the. vehicle to be uneffiecent after startups, coldstarts, ect. The heater is simply there to simulate the heat generated under normal driving conditions.
After the vehicle has reached operating temp, the sensor will begin to be effiecient, so yes you are probably losing a miniscule amount of mileage
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Old May 14, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by beecee18
The only way you lose fuel effiecency is because the heater circuit if not working properly does not preheat the O2 sensor, The sensors love heat and work more effiecently under lots of heat, so you will find the. vehicle to be uneffiecent after startups, coldstarts, ect. The heater is simply there to simulate the heat generated under normal driving conditions.
After the vehicle has reached operating temp, the sensor will begin to be effiecient, so yes you are probably losing a miniscule amount of mileage
if the pcm determines a fault with the o2 sensor, it remains in open loop. that is, no feedback from the o2, regardless of engine temp
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Old May 14, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by el crapitan
if the pcm determines a fault with the o2 sensor, it remains in open loop. that is, no feedback from the o2, regardless of engine temp
lol,
the code is simply for the heater circuit
the sensor still recieves the signal from the o2
And streams feedback to ECM for closed loop operation
A heater fault would not run the vehicle in open loop constantly

please remember bud this isnt caveman OBD1, this is OBD2 where there is redudndancy so this doesnt occur. research OBD2 some more.

and it is a ECM(engine control module)

not a PCM(powertrain control module) as these dont control transmissions and arent linked to BCM's ect. only engines.
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Old May 15, 2012 | 03:44 AM
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my apologies. i stand corrected.. on both accounts
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Old May 15, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by el crapitan
my apologies. i stand corrected.. on both accounts
no worries,

As this is how we learn, you will catch me some day for sure as I can be a loose cannon. And I will be thanking you
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