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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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On my zex dry kit I mounted my nozzel before the hose on the intake piping. Dose this make a huge diffrence? Will things get fucked up if nitrous goes through that hose? I plan on getting a new intake in the future but I wanted to know if I cold use it like this a couple times.

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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 12:33 AM
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No it shouldn't affect it anything. If you're worried about it, you can always tap another hole and plug the old one up. Or just put a piece of tape on over the old hole, if you're lazy like me.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 03:54 AM
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Actually, Dry N02 works better the closer it is to the intake manifold
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doc_Honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, Dry N02 works better the closer it is to the intake manifold</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would disagree, the farther it is, the more time the nitrogen has to break down the oxygen. If you mount it too close, the pressure will force all the gas through the plenum to the #1 cylinder and cause some damage. I would mount the nozzle right after the air filter so it can mix better, and you run a bigger shot, safer, and make more power.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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I mounted mine about 3 inches from the throttle body and it was fine. Ask around in the FI fourm, they will know more about it there.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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Ok cool. Thanks guys.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 08:18 AM
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The zex manual wants you to install it at least six inches from the throttle body, the hose on the intake is not a factor. Also the NO2 does not break down the oxygen, it breaks down into oxygen molecules at a given temperature(not sure what temp.) but it is a good idea to let the NO2 **mix** with the intake charge.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doc_Honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, Dry N02 works better the closer it is to the intake manifold</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually dry is better further , wet is better closer for disttribution purposes.

about the hose going to the valve cover im assuming your tlaking about ? i dont think that should be an issue , but i never ran that hos,e i take that **** off as soon as i put intakes on and plug up that hole with a vac cap.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95egTURBO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The zex manual wants you to install it at least six inches from the throttle body</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes this is true but with dry farther is definetly better... the thing i don't get is ZEX tells you to mount it around 6" from the throttle body but why did they just come out with a air filter that you can just plug your line right into!!!! maybe they finally figured out farther is better... DUH!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 06:16 AM
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Not disagreeing with that, but it definately should not be installed closer than 6 inches. Plus with the harware they give you, it's actually a task to install it further than the recommended length. But yes, the further the better. It actually helps push the air intake charge faster also.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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It should be 9-16 inches from the throttlebody. Too close you will have problems with uneven distribution and to far away (like right after the filter as someone stated) you will lose power due to longer time for the intake temp to heat up the nitrous.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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i have 2 intakes and decided to experiment....on my AEM i drilled a hole about 6-7" away from the TB on it..sprays nice...on the other intake i didnt drill any holes and actually drilled the hole on the rubber pipe connecter that connects the intake to the TB and mounted it there...ive noticed it kicks harder like that, seems like its more instant.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redlinegsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It should be 9-16 inches from the throttlebody. Too close you will have problems with uneven distribution and to far away (like right after the filter as someone stated) you will lose power due to longer time for the intake temp to heat up the nitrous. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.... balance is everything...
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redlinegsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It should be 9-16 inches from the throttlebody. Too close you will have problems with uneven distribution and to far away (like right after the filter as someone stated) you will lose power due to longer time for the intake temp to heat up the nitrous. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly how much will the air/nitrous really heat up while in the intake - not much at all... how much power will you lose because of this - again nothing at all. The air going through the intake travels at such a high speed it has very very very little time to heat up. If you had a short ram then all your doing is sucking in hot air. With a cold air intake and the nitrous nozzle at the end by the filter its not going to heat up all that much maybe 1-2 degrees MAYBE!!!! By having the nitrous farther away it has more time to mix with the air creating a better air/fuel mixture. Like i said before ZEX came out with there own filter you can plug your nitrous line into. Why they tell you 6-12 inches from the throttle body then come out with something like this is beyond me
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DK4200 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> By having the nitrous farther away it has more time to mix with the air creating a better air/fuel mixture. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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You need a balance of distance from the TB just like redlinegsr said. If it's too close you have the risk of not having nitrous flow into all four cylinders evenly. If it's too far, then the nitrous liquid will break down a little more, and not as much will stay in it's liquid form(hit as hard), but this is still a bettter route. I'd rather have it farther than closer. Either way is not necessarily going to be immediately detrimental to your engine, but it poses a risk in the longterm.

Direct port is the way to go though. The exact same amount of liquid nitrous going straight into each cylinder.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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Also another thing. What do you mean keeping the nozzle farther away is making your air/fuel ratio better???
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 06:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOSed_b18b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Direct port is the way to go though. The exact same amount of liquid nitrous going straight into each cylinder.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is a narrow tuning window though.....but if you get tuned right, you can make some huge power.
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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It's the best way to go, in my opinion.
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOSed_b18b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also another thing. What do you mean keeping the nozzle farther away is making your air/fuel ratio better???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im talking about a dry shot...
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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I'm sorry. Still not computing through my brain.
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