So i wanna hear some opinions i have a 95 ls with 199k miles on it i have a budget of about 5k so should i go turbo or N/A

 

boost ftw, you hear the errrrrrr BWHAAAAAA *PISHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!*

 

well that depends on what your use would be, street?, strip?, and what kind of numbers you plan on pulling out of your motor..... 250hp.....or 500hp, or if your going for low end tourqe or high end power

either way you decide, 5k sould get you a pretty nice set up

but what are your plans for the car, as far as the usage goes? daily driver or weekend warior?

 

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Sounds like your about ready for the b18c5 engine and tranny swap.... Thats what I would do, no question about it. There is nothing NA you can really do to an LS engine, Just get a new engine and tranny, JDM ITR FTW.

 

i would agree with morrison, your motor has a few miles, and without some serious machining i doubt that it would like boost, you can spend 3200 on an entire itr swap, and i think that youll be happy with that

 

well i would go with a daily driver for a little bit then when i move back to california turn up the boost and let it go maybe do some circuit races and stuff so for now i would run low boost and if the engine didnt like it and gave way on me i could find a way to afford a b18c5 so that is no problem to me, but i will have it set on low boost while i drive it around then have all that i need to be able to turn it up

i am new to boosting and i cant really find any kind of ems except for the AEM one is it good?


Modified by Ls_Turboteg at 6:12 PM 8/26/2008

 

just build NA man..
my opinion on boosted hondas is that they are useless unless for drag racing..
a boosted honda makes to much power for auto-x plus then you have lag. and at the track you usually get put into a really gay class, some times, unless you are with alot of other cars with the same status.
and it costs so much to maintain. and you lose the infamous sleeper look.

NA is best, that what our vtec b series motors where made for so use it for that

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegra2G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just build NA man..
my opinion on boosted hondas is that they are useless unless for drag racing..
a boosted honda makes to much power for auto-x plus then you have lag. and at the track you usually get put into a really gay class, some times, unless you are with alot of other cars with the same status.
and it costs so much to maintain. and you lose the infamous sleeper look.

NA is best, that what our vtec b series motors where made for so use it for that</TD></TR></TABLE>

The OP could rebuild and go with a small turbo for an excellent power gain with minimal lag. The OP also has a non-VTEC engine.

 

The biggest bang for your buck is boost, end of discussion. If you want torque, boost the thing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegra2G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just build NA man..
my opinion on boosted hondas is that they are useless unless for drag racing..
a boosted honda makes to much power for auto-x plus then you have lag. and at the track you usually get put into a really gay class, some times, unless you are with alot of other cars with the same status.
and it costs so much to maintain. and you lose the infamous sleeper look.

NA is best, that what our vtec b series motors where made for so use it for that</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're nuts. It's easy to keep the sleeper look; buy some black radiator paint. That's what I did and I get surprised and shocked looks when I blow past someone who thought I was a slow n/a teg.

 

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Sounds like your about ready for the b18c5 engine and tranny swap.... Thats what I would do, no question about it. There is nothing NA you can really do to an LS engine, Just get a new engine and tranny, JDM ITR FTW. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There's plenty you can do with an LS engine by keeping it n/a. It's just not cost effective nor are the results as impressive as a vtec engine. All honda engines lack torque which can be made up for with a snail.

 

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Some people prefer N/A... if you want a turbo, get an Evo/STI... if this is a daily driver, there is no point in boosting it, thats my opinion though. I would never ever dream of boosting my honda unless it was going to be a drag *****... With the type r engine and tranny, bone stock, You're going to get an orgasm everytime you hit vtec and take it to 8500 RPM...... Its an experience you'll never regret. And if it isnt fast enough for you, you can always go N/A on it, and make some wicked WHP... However, if you want something really fast really easy, boost it.

 

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The OP could rebuild and go with a small turbo for an excellent power gain with minimal lag. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.

With 5k a rebuild will provide the reliability you would need if you wanted to securley boost the car. Who knows it may even be capable of boosting as it is.

The OP never mentioned anything about auto x. I doubt the budget of 5k could barely touch on the modifications and tuning you'd need for a track car such as that. Not to mention, all motor builds can get pretty pricey, compared to the price of a small turbo setup/decent tune.

What it all comes down to it your goals for the car, and what you want in return from the car is ultimately what you should put into it. If your looking for decent power this pretty much sums it up.

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A boosted ls could hands down make more power than a stock N/A ITR swap, and with a rebuild you should have the reliability if that's what your worried about. There's plenty of people on the forced induction boards, check that out for more answers.

And can you really beat this?
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Modified by hardvtec90 at 8:12 PM 8/26/2008

 

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Some people prefer N/A... if you want a turbo, get an Evo/STI... if this is a daily driver, there is no point in boosting it, thats my opinion though. I would never ever dream of boosting my honda unless it was going to be a drag *****... With the type r engine and tranny, bone stock, You're going to get an orgasm everytime you hit vtec and take it to 8500 RPM...... Its an experience you'll never regret. And if it isnt fast enough for you, you can always go N/A on it, and make some wicked WHP... However, if you want something really fast really easy, boost it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Those are usually the people who can't afford a serious turbo setup. The DD part has nothing to do with anything. If built correctly without cutting any corners, reliability will not be compromised.

I also love how you say boost is easy, haha. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

Sorry man, but I don't orgasm with 130 lbs. of torque and the thrill of "hitting vtec". Maybe you do.

 

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooost

 

How good are XS turbo kits? They are 1850 shipped on ebay.

 

I'd say go with boost ftw. But with a motor with that many miles on it you're either going to have to rebuild the motor you have or swap it out for a new one.

 

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Those are usually the people who can't afford a serious turbo setup. The DD part has nothing to do with anything. If built correctly without cutting any corners, reliability will not be compromised.

I also love how you say boost is easy, haha. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

Sorry man, but I don't orgasm with 130 lbs. of torque and the thrill of "hitting vtec". Maybe you do. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Usually a N/A build is going to be more than a Turbo set it. And I have argued with you before, I dont like Turbo'd hondas, and you beat off to them online, Argree to disagree and stop being a douche bag. Insulting the Type R engine, I find funny. You enjoy your 11 second LS.

 

How about a k20 swap?

 

do a small turbo set up. it will be quick for the street, and you won't have the lag of those larger turbo set ups.

i wouldn't use anything to do with those xs power turbo kits on ebay. search h-t a lot of people have had faulty manifolds from them.

 

I would rebuild or replace the engine and boost it. Don't cut corners and you'll love it. If you wanna go NA I would get a K series.

 

If you put a turbo on a Ls motor with 199k... that would put a lot of pressure on an already dying engine wouldnt it?

that would lead to a lot of headaches.

 

5k is enough money for full rebuild and turbo set up.

 

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Would be nice, but is it really realistic with a budget of 5 grand?

 

it's a judgement call. if you could actually control yourself with boost then doing a rebuild of your motor with a few psi would definately be peppy. plan B is calling hmotorsonline and ordering a complete type r swap. i've delt with steve and he does not sell junk. the only problem is that the motors are at least 7 years old.