NITERYDER

Im in the market for a good commuter car that gets at least 25 mpg. I have come across a few gsr's an ls's i just want a 2dr 5spd. Besides vtec what else is the difference? I just want it to get good gas mileage, but still have some pep.

vidanator

well i say get the gsr if you can get it at a good price, they both have basically the same gas mileage but the gsr needs 91 octane, the gsr also has shorter gears than the ls, i have a gsr and love it!

NITERYDER

Well i found a 98 gs with leather, 5spd, and its only got 55k on it for 8900, and a 95 gsr with 96k 5spd and leather as well.

turbo01LS

if you are going to be doing a lot of highway driving i would recomend the ls because it has taller gears and will run at a lower rpm at highway speeds in 5th gear=better gas mileage. plus you don't need to use premium gas , and insurance is cheaper.

skunk2eg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo01LS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are going to be doing a lot of highway driving i would recomend the ls because it has taller gears and will run at a lower rpm at highway speeds in 5th gear=better gas mileage. plus you don't need to use premium gas , and insurance is cheaper. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, sticken around 3k rpm over 60 mph in 5th gear in a gsr just doesnt happen.....so for fuel economy go LS

qcktegls

if its just a daily driver there is no question about it at all. running 91 gas cost more and the ls gets better gas milage on the highway. so go ls if its just for cruisin back and forth between work/school or whatever.

SilverDC4

If it's purly for commuting then got for an LS not GS. Unless you want the leather. i've gotten up to 335highway miles with 2 gallons left in the tank.

purplegsr

I agree with everyone, if you are only looking for good mileage and a daily driver, you will be happy with an LS.

I have used a 2000 GS-R and a 1992 LS as a daily driver - my GS-R needed 91 octane, which costs an extra 20-30 cents, and it got about 28 mpg. My LS runs on 87 octane, and gets 31 mpg. Not to mention the savings on insurance for the LS, I don't have to worry about it getting stolen or damaged, and it only cost 3 grand.

However, if you want a fun car to commute in, that is a good balance between performance and mileage, a GS-R is a good choice.

BlackSage

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo01LS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are going to be doing a lot of highway driving i would recomend the ls because it has taller gears and will run at a lower rpm at highway speeds in 5th gear=better gas mileage. plus you don't need to use premium gas , and insurance is cheaper. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not really. Isnt gas mileage more dependent on throttle position? I have a 00 gsr drive mostly city and get about 320 to the tank or 27mpg

SI-ER

get the gsr

purplegsr

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Not really. Isnt gas mileage more dependent on throttle position? I have a 00 gsr drive mostly city and get about 320 to the tank or 27mpg</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, gearing does have an impact on gas mileage. If you were to get 2 identical gs-rs, install a ls tranny on one and leave the gs-r tranny on the other - the ls tranny would probably get 1 or 2 miles more per gallon. Not a huge difference, although the gs-r with ls tranny would now have slower acceleration than the stock gs-r.

Engine speed has a lot to do with gas mileage, 80mph at 4000rpm will use more gas than 80mph at 3500rpm. However, throttle position does have an effect, if your commute is filled with hills and the LS is constantly bogging up a hill because it doesn't have enough power, that added load will also hurt mileage.

BlackSage

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr (Exospeed) &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually, gearing does have an impact on gas mileage. If you were to get 2 identical gs-rs, install a ls tranny on one and leave the gs-r tranny on the other - the ls tranny would probably get 1 or 2 miles more per gallon. Not a huge difference, although the gs-r with ls tranny would now have slower acceleration than the stock gs-r.

Engine speed has a lot to do with gas mileage, 80mph at 4000rpm will use more gas than 80mph at 3500rpm. However, throttle position does have an effect, if your commute is filled with hills and the LS is constantly bogging up a hill because it doesn't have enough power, that added load will also hurt mileage. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with you, gearing DOES have an impact on gas mileage, I'd be a fool if I said it didnt. However my point is gearing does not have a huge effect when comparing the LS and GSE. I have a 92 integra LS and a 00 gsr and the gas mileage is the same. For both cars the worst is 280 and the highest is about 340. The LS is better on gas, but not enough to justify buying it over a gsr. There is not a definite answer to rookie03's question because everyone has a different idea of what they think "pep" is. his best bet is to go out and drive both cars.

purplegsr

True indeed, gas mileage is a combination of every possible factor - the amount of incline in your commute, the gearing, your average speed, weight, etc. So I agree with BlackSage completely, gearing probably doesn't make or break a decision. However, I drive very differently in the LS than I did in my GS-R.

I know the LS is butt slow, so I drive it like it's butt slow, and get good mileage because of it. I think the major deciding factors are other costs - gas prices (87 v 91), insurance, and cost of the car. It all depends on what you think 'pep' is, and if you want a balance or a straight commuter.

turbo01LS

or he could get the ls, use the extra money to boost it, that way you still save money on insurance, even at low boost you will be faster than a gsr, and i don't know about others but when i boosted my ls and still had it at low boost my highway mileage increased a little. and it will still be reliable if you just run low boost say 6-8psi. just something to think about.

94ls

boosting anything is gonna do nothing but eat gas

buddha1320

i say get the ls not as likely to get stolen as a gsr just my 2cents

ez_steezy

yeah gsr's kickass but will probaly get stolen or broken into. ls is probably a better choice, but then again i love my gsr

b18c1tcivic90

I got a 2001 GSR with 65000 on it, asking 11,500. All maintenance issues have been done; 3 angle valve job, thermostat, all coolant flushed, new brakes, new tires, tranny serviced,

turbo01LS

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boosting anything is gonna do nothing but eat gas</TD></TR></TABLE>

not necessarily, if you stay out of boost it doesn't use any more gas than normal, and it actually helps on the highway. That's why factory turbo cars usually get better mileage on the highway compared to similar na cars. If you are always gettin on it then yeah, it will eat gas.

rastropovitch

RS

FunkDaddyFresh

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You just took the words straight out of my mouth.

hondamonkey

GET THE GSR MAN!!

ian.

get an ls for a good commuter

Sack Master

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo01LS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

not necessarily, if you stay out of boost it doesn't use any more gas than normal, and it actually helps on the highway. That's why factory turbo cars usually get better mileage on the highway compared to similar na cars. If you are always gettin on it then yeah, it will eat gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>Maybe a diesel. I don't care what car it is or what engine. A forced induction car will eat more gas than its normally aspirated counter part. Yeah staying out of boost will help gas mileage but any force induction car needs to run richer.

95gsr2203

GSR

iinsurance is higher but well worth it!