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Old 01-04-2009, 03:38 PM
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Default HOW TO: S2000 Cluster Swap In 92-93 DA Integra

I know people have been waiting for this for a while so I figured it's time to post it.

I've still have to get the Cruise Control wired up correctly but I will post that once it's figured out. It will not effect the driving of the car.

First and foremost, this write up covers wiring on a 92-93 DA Integra, there are some ECU connections made and I have listed ODB1 colors. I DO NOT know if 90-91 Integras have the same cluster wiring so those of you with the 90-91 Integras, you'll have to get in there and see.

I will not be covering dash or cluster removal in this write up, there is enough info out there so just search it.

With the information provided this swap can be performed on any ODB Acura/Honda providing you can cluster pin outs for YOUR model and year.

Lastly, this write up is for the AP1 S2000 cluster, what's the difference between the 2, see the pictures below.

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As you can see the fuel and engine temp on the AP2 are curved where as on the AP1 they are straight. The AP2 wiring is different too, the pin outs I posted have both AP1 and AP2 on them.

The next post will start to cover the parts and tools required.
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Default Re: HOW TO: S2000 Cluster Swap In 92-93 DA Integra

You need the following tools:

Wire strippers
Soldering Iron and solder
Heat Shrink
Heat Gun
Ring Terminal for the ECT gauge.
Some 18ga wire for wiring the ECT gauge.

Parts Needed:

AP1 S2000 Cluster and cluster plugs (you NEED the plugs) - Search the classifieds of various boards (JDMR, HT, etc), Ebay, S2Ki.com is good too.

Electronic Vehicle Speed Sensor from a 94-01 Integra - I bought mine for $50 from Teknotik. Try a junker. If you have a D series, use one from a 92-95 Civic.

Modifry Engine Coolant Temperature Converter - http://www.modifry.com/products/ect/index.htm

Speedohealer V4 (older versions will not work) Buy the Universal model - For Canadians: http://www.xtsportbikeaccessories.co...FSTaDAodpzuPCg
Everyone else, search for a dealer on Healtech's web site: http://www.healtech-electronics.com/

Now it's time for the actual swap.

EDIT: You need the universal Speedohealer.

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I personally got a spare dash harness to do this swap. Here is the wiring pin out.

S2000 (AP1) To 92-93 Integra Cluster Wiring Diagram.

Connector A 14 Pins Green

1. Blue/Red -------- Yellow/Red - Seat Belt Warning Light
2. ------
3. ------
4. Pink - SRS Light -------- Black/Yellow - +12V will switch the light off since no DA came with air bags.
5. Blue/White - DRL Indicator - Not Used (Canada Only)
6. Yellow -------- Black/Yellow - Fuse 5 (Canada Only)
7. Green/Red ----------- Green/Blue - Left Turn Signal
8. Green/Yellow --------- Green Yellow - Right Turn Signal
9. Canada: Red/White --------- Red/Blue - High Beam Indicator
USA: Red/Yellow --------- Red/Blue - High Beam Indicator
10. Red/Blue -------- Black - High Beam Indicator (-)
11. Blue/Black ------- Green/Black - Trunk Open Indicator
12. --------
13.---------
14. Yellow/Blue - EPS Indicator - Not Used

Connector B 12 Pins Grey

1. Black/White -------- Green/Red - Door Open Output
2. Red/Yellow -------- Black/Yellow - Fuse 45
3. Red/Black -------- Red/Black - Dash Lights
4. Yellow ------- Black/Yellow - Fuse 5
5. White/Red -------- Black/Yellow - Fuse 25
6. Green ------- Green/Red - Driver’s Door
7. Light Green/Red ------- Green/Red - Passenger Door
8. Black ----- Black - Ground
9. Black ----- Black - Ground
10. Red ----- Black - Dash Lights (-)
11. Green - Wiper Relay - Not Used
12. ---------

Connector C 20 Pins Black

1. White/Black - VSS Output - Not used
2. Red/White -------- Black/Yellow - Ignition Key Switch
3. Blue/White ------- See Speedohealer Wiring
4. ------
5. Blue --------- Blue - Tachometer Output
6. Black/White - Heater Control Panel Illumination Cancel Output - Not used
7. Yellow/Green -------- See ECT Wiring
8. Yellow/Black -------- Yellow/White - Fuel Gauge (you must also tie the Green/Red - Low Fuel Indicator into this wire)
9. -------
10. -------
11. Blue/Orange - Wiper Position Input - Not Used
12. Blue/Black - Intermittent Wiper Request Input - Not Used
13. White/Black - Washer Request Input - Not Used
14. --------
15. Blue/Yellow --------- Red/Black - Cruise Control Indicator
16. --------
17. --------
18. ---------
19. ---------
20. ----------

Connector D 16 Pins Black

1. ---------
2. --------
3. --------
4. ---------
5. ----------
6. ----------
7. ----------
8. Blue/Red -------- Blue/Red - ABS Indicator (or ground if you don’t have ABS)
9. Green/White ------- Green/Red - E-Brake Indicator (pins 9 and 10 tied together)
10. Green/Red ------ Green/Red - Brake System Indicator (pins 9 and 10 tied together)
11. White/Blue ---- White/Blue - Charging System Indicator
12. Black/Yellow ---- Black/Yellow - Fuse 8
13. Yellow/Red ------ Yellow/Red - Engine Oil Pressure Indicator
14. Green/Orange ---- Green/Orange - MIL Indicator (Check Engine Light)
15. Pink - Immobilizer Indicator - Not Used (possible to hook up to an alarm’s LED for *****? Dunno might have to try it).
16. White/Red ------ Black/Yellow - Fuse 25

S2000 Cluster Pin Outs
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DA 92-93 Integra Pin Outs
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Here's pictures of my wiring.
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I HAVE OVER 20 HOURS OF WORKING FIGURING OUT THE WIRING

Solder the completed harness into your car. You can either cut your plugs off or leave them, I choose to leave them and I suggest you do the same.
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Next we will move on to wiring the converters.
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We'll start with the Speedhealer and Electronic VSS.

Here is the wiring diagram for the E-VSS
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The VSS is on top of the transmission, follow the speedo cable from the firewall down to locate it. Push down on the cable and pull up to remove it (if you didn't when you pulled out your cluster).

There is a bolt holding it in place, remove it, remove the VSS and replace it with the E-VSS.

Wiring For the Speedohealer
Speedhealer V4 Wiring

Red -------- Ignition Power (I suggest the accessory ports in the fuse box)
Black -------- Chassis Ground
Green ------- Blue/White - Connector C Pin 3 On S2000 Cluster Harness
White ------- Yellow/White Signal Wire On Electronic Vehicle Speed Sensor

Next we'll cover the Modifry ECT converter.
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Now it's time to wire the ECT converter.

Modifry Engine Coolant Temperature Converter Wiring

White -------- Red/White or Yellow Blue - ECU Connector D Pin 13
Green ---------- Yellow/Green Connector C Pin 7 on the S2000 Cluster Harness
Yellow --------- D19 on the ECU (ODB1, will get color tomorrow)
Brown --------- Ground For Alarm Output (to hook up a sounder or LED or both)
Gray ----------- Alarm Output Goes To Alarm’s Negative
Black --------- Chassis Ground

That about wraps up the wiring side of the install.

The next part is fabbing mounts and a plate to block off the gaps in the dash. This is something I am still working on (would you believe I'm having a hell of a time locating a piece of carbon fiber?)

Here's some pictures of the rough install and some early videos when I first did the swap, speedo wasn't working at the time.

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Day time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOpKGj75_0A

Night time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUioLeCcKg

That's it! Feel free to ask me any questions you might have.

Since I know it's going to be asked, yes I will do the wiring for you. PM me to discuss it.
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Good Job!!! Thats a cool swap.
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w00t. its about damn time anthony! btw...you're friggen awesome!
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looks nice with the s2 cluster
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man that looks sick!........i want to do that mine! maybe this summer hahahahaha

So you basically chopped the harness off your integra and the Harness off the S2000 cluster and matched up the wires correct?
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Originally Posted by slaminsam
Good Job!!! Thats a cool swap.
Originally Posted by OldSkoolDa91
w00t. its about damn time anthony! btw...you're friggen awesome!
Originally Posted by DA Tron
looks nice with the s2 cluster
Thanks guys, can't wait till it's trimmed out in CF.

Originally Posted by PhantomX
man that looks sick!........i want to do that mine! maybe this summer hahahahaha

So you basically chopped the harness off your integra and the Harness off the S2000 cluster and matched up the wires correct?
Did you read my post? There's a bit more to it then matching wires, simply because all but 2 or 3 wires are totally different, hence the wiring diagram.

I did not cut the plugs off my Integra, just spliced in.
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Nice work. Is there enough clearance to put in maybe a plexiglass plate to hide everything around the edges of the cluster?
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Yes there is. Just use the cluster bezel and s2000 cluster to make a template.

I've got the template, just need to find somewhere that sells CF.
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thats so dope....i wanna do it to....perfect instructions....does the speedometer work????
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Yup.

That's what the speedohealer does. It steps the regular VSS signal up to a higher pulse rate that the cluster can read. Wire the healer as I've shown and then configure it to read the correct speed. Having a GPS will help with this.
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wen you say GPS...you mean navigation system rite??? ohh and how much did you pay for your cluster???
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Yea, a nav system. Garvin, Tom Tom, etc.

Cluster cost me $200 without plugs. You can get one with plugs for $250-350.
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are those junk yard prices???cuz theres a dismantler out here...actally theres a few out here....
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The cluster?

you might find it at a junk yard, good luck.
Try s2ki.com
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Added to the faq.
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Added to the faq.
Awesome, I've been waiting to see that posted lol.
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The cluster?

you might find it at a junk yard, good luck.
Try s2ki.com
thanks man...
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Awesome....
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Did you ever get the speedo working???
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Yup, speedohealer V4 is the solution.
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