Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra
06-05-2007, 07:10 AM
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Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra
Hello i was just wondering if anyone has already done this swap i am going with a b16a first generation sir, i was just wondering how difficult is it or anyone that has some information that can help please with wiring and alll that thanks.
06-05-2007, 07:20 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (NIGHT-DEMON)
Thats probably the hardest swap in the world. I think there was like one that has been done by a shop about 2 years ago. You would be better off going k20 MUCH easier.
Now before you start one of these stupid b16 sucks threads do a search. I have personally replied to about 5 threads of people asking about this so there is alot of info out there.
Now before you start one of these stupid b16 sucks threads do a search. I have personally replied to about 5 threads of people asking about this so there is alot of info out there.
06-05-2007, 07:32 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (St Jimmy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by St Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats probably the hardest swap in the world. I think there was like one that has been done by a shop about 2 years ago. You would be better off going k20 MUCH easier.
Now before you start one of these stupid b16 sucks threads do a search. I have personally replied to about 5 threads of people asking about this so there is alot of info out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Geez, are b16's in a DA that slow to be bashed on? I'm on a budget with my DA, and that might be my route, since my other car is where my $$ goes.
Now before you start one of these stupid b16 sucks threads do a search. I have personally replied to about 5 threads of people asking about this so there is alot of info out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Geez, are b16's in a DA that slow to be bashed on? I'm on a budget with my DA, and that might be my route, since my other car is where my $$ goes.
06-05-2007, 07:40 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (VTECth1s)
Its not that they are a bad motor its just everyone bashes them, then it turns into a 2 or 3 page thread of completly useless info just people going at it it.
06-05-2007, 07:43 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (St Jimmy)
With a da you should just swap in the gen's gsr motor.
Leave it cable and just get an obd0 1.7+
Leave it cable and just get an obd0 1.7+
06-05-2007, 08:01 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (St Jimmy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by St Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats probably the hardest swap in the world. I think there was like one that has been done by a shop about 2 years ago. You would be better off going k20 MUCH easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what???
its B series to B series. it literally bolts in. wth are you talking about? the JDM 90-93 integra came with a B16 from the factory. There will be some minor wiring differences going from LS to a vtec motor, but physically, it all bolts in. Make sure you use the B16's close ratio transmission. Try to get a swap that has come out of a jdm 90-91 integra (might be 89-90 in japan), and not a 90-91 civic/crx SiR.
if you already have a civic Si-R engine, you'll need to use all the motor mounts off of your LS engine.
what???
its B series to B series. it literally bolts in. wth are you talking about? the JDM 90-93 integra came with a B16 from the factory. There will be some minor wiring differences going from LS to a vtec motor, but physically, it all bolts in. Make sure you use the B16's close ratio transmission. Try to get a swap that has come out of a jdm 90-91 integra (might be 89-90 in japan), and not a 90-91 civic/crx SiR.
if you already have a civic Si-R engine, you'll need to use all the motor mounts off of your LS engine.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deadline »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16a into a DA is the most easiest swap....drop's right in. just needs to wire vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wire vtec to a stock ls ecu? Teach me please.
Wire vtec to a stock ls ecu? Teach me please.
06-05-2007, 09:48 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (ek forever guy)
"With a da you should just swap in the gen's gsr motor.
Leave it cable and just get an obd0 1.7+"
no such 1.7 B-series VTEC motor exists for OBD0.
you guys act like the b17 is a b16 killer. the XSi/SiR OBD0 b16 is rated at 160ps, which equals to about 157 hp.
the B17 is rated at 160hp. i dont think 3 hp makes an entirely huge difference.
Your LS should have pretty much all the misc. things you need for the swap (mounts, alternator, ps pump, axles, intermediate shaft, and you could even use the 90-91 clutch and flywheel if you so desire, as well as the engine harness.)
You can get away with buying just the motor, trans, ecu, distributor, IM, and header. You'll pretty much just be reusing the parts from the LS.
Leave it cable and just get an obd0 1.7+"
no such 1.7 B-series VTEC motor exists for OBD0.
you guys act like the b17 is a b16 killer. the XSi/SiR OBD0 b16 is rated at 160ps, which equals to about 157 hp.
the B17 is rated at 160hp. i dont think 3 hp makes an entirely huge difference.
Your LS should have pretty much all the misc. things you need for the swap (mounts, alternator, ps pump, axles, intermediate shaft, and you could even use the 90-91 clutch and flywheel if you so desire, as well as the engine harness.)
You can get away with buying just the motor, trans, ecu, distributor, IM, and header. You'll pretty much just be reusing the parts from the LS.
06-05-2007, 09:51 AM
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Re: (St Jimmy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by St Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wire vtec to a stock ls ecu? Teach me please.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well of course u need the ecu to match the motor
well of course u need the ecu to match the motor
06-05-2007, 10:17 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (NIGHT-DEMON)
well right now i am just thinking in a b16 because its easy to work on and to bolt it on i was thnking also because since my car is a b series and i am swapping another b series i think also that is pretty much the same but the thing is that i love hondas to death but i have more experience with european cars since i am a mechanic and i work with european cars all year round i havent buy the engine but i am planning in getting a complete swap its like 1700 for it so let me know
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deadline »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well of course u need the ecu to match the motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
You think a guy that asked if a b16 into a DA has ever been done will know something like that? But I guess your just as intelligent as him.
well of course u need the ecu to match the motor
</TD></TR></TABLE>You think a guy that asked if a b16 into a DA has ever been done will know something like that?
But I guess your just as intelligent as him.
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (mike-y)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike-y »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what???
its B series to B series. it literally bolts in. wth are you talking about? the JDM 90-93 integra came with a B16 from the factory. There will be some minor wiring differences going from LS to a vtec motor, but physically, it all bolts in. Make sure you use the B16's close ratio transmission. Try to get a swap that has come out of a jdm 90-91 integra (might be 89-90 in japan), and not a 90-91 civic/crx SiR.
if you already have a civic Si-R engine, you'll need to use all the motor mounts off of your LS engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He was being sarcastic genius.
what???
its B series to B series. it literally bolts in. wth are you talking about? the JDM 90-93 integra came with a B16 from the factory. There will be some minor wiring differences going from LS to a vtec motor, but physically, it all bolts in. Make sure you use the B16's close ratio transmission. Try to get a swap that has come out of a jdm 90-91 integra (might be 89-90 in japan), and not a 90-91 civic/crx SiR.
if you already have a civic Si-R engine, you'll need to use all the motor mounts off of your LS engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He was being sarcastic genius.
06-05-2007, 10:45 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (St Jimmy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by St Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its not that they are a bad motor its just everyone bashes them, then it turns into a 2 or 3 page thread of completly useless info just people going at it it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not saying there bad motors, B16's are awesome and I have much respect for them as any other b-series vtec motor. I was just asking if they are that SLOW, when swapped into DA as what many people say.
Not saying there bad motors, B16's are awesome and I have much respect for them as any other b-series vtec motor. I was just asking if they are that SLOW, when swapped into DA as what many people say.
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (VTECth1s)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECth1s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not saying there bad motors, B16's are awesome and I have much respect for them as any other b-series vtec motor. I was just asking if they are that SLOW, when swapped into DA as what many people say.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Many people say they are slow, but do you really go by what people say? I have numerous time slips from my integra with a stock LS in it and then I put a XSi swap into it. My fastest for both motors with the same mods was 15.7. A stock b16 is just as fast as a stock LS motor.
Not saying there bad motors, B16's are awesome and I have much respect for them as any other b-series vtec motor. I was just asking if they are that SLOW, when swapped into DA as what many people say.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Many people say they are slow, but do you really go by what people say? I have numerous time slips from my integra with a stock LS in it and then I put a XSi swap into it. My fastest for both motors with the same mods was 15.7. A stock b16 is just as fast as a stock LS motor.
06-05-2007, 11:17 AM
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (St Jimmy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by St Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Many people say they are slow, but do you really go by what people say? I have numerous time slips from my integra with a stock LS in it and then I put a XSi swap into it. My fastest for both motors with the same mods was 15.7. A stock b16 is just as fast as a stock LS motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just havent had the chance to be in a stock b16 DA, every car ive been have been 1.8's including my previous gsr and ls-vtec's. But with bolt-ons, valvetrain upgrades the 16 should be a good drive I presume.
Many people say they are slow, but do you really go by what people say? I have numerous time slips from my integra with a stock LS in it and then I put a XSi swap into it. My fastest for both motors with the same mods was 15.7. A stock b16 is just as fast as a stock LS motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just havent had the chance to be in a stock b16 DA, every car ive been have been 1.8's including my previous gsr and ls-vtec's. But with bolt-ons, valvetrain upgrades the 16 should be a good drive I presume.
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (ABCVTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABCVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He was being sarcastic genius.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry it didn't translate that well over the interweb genius.
sorry it didn't translate that well over the interweb genius.
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Re: Help With B16 Swap to 91 acura integra (NIGHT-DEMON)
well i actually not was asking if the motor was good i just need some info on specs and wiring how to do it if anybody i like b16 one of my friends has a b16 turbocharged in a 92 DA 4 door and this weekend he took an sti 5 times in a row plus i just want it because my engine is not good anymore and not because i want to race it
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