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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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I have a 97' RS Integra Coupe and I wanted to go Vtec and I figure the easiest way would be to get the head off a Integra GSR but I don't know if that would work. Help
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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It's called LS/VTEC. Search and you shall find...
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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I tried looking it like you told me, but nothing in the case where I need to know how to hook up the head or anything...Can you just put it on or is there something you need to do to it?
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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it's not a simple bolt on, if that's what your asking. do a search and you'll see how to probably put a gsr head on your ls block.
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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It's more hassle than its worth most likely, look into some simple turbo kits like the Greddy... They'll cost the same as an LS/VTEC setup and will outperform them.
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Well I see these GSR heads online for like 300 to 500$ and it wouldn't cost as much as a turbo, and im just wonderings just basically wut do you need to do to put it on?
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Default Re: GSR Head compatible with RS engine? (lastpunkinline)

pm'd ya with some sites
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 12:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lastpunkinline &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I see these GSR heads online for like 300 to 500$ and it wouldn't cost as much as a turbo, and im just wonderings just basically wut do you need to do to put it on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

To do a proper LS/VTEC conversion it can be quite costly, while the gains are not that huge relative to the cost. Rather than do an LSVTEC conversion on the cheap, I would save your cash until you can either do one properly or go forced induction. Just my $.02, good luck with whatever you end up doing
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 12:55 AM
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yea just bolt the head up and rev to 8k. my friend put a gsr head on his kia rio.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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yup...that's how it starts...you're fooled into thinking it's cheap just b/c the head only costs like $500....but what you don't realize is is that you need pistons (b16 or aftermarket) that's like $300 right there and labor on piston install alone is expensive as sh*t...you need a new VTEC ECU....(like $350) and opn top of all that (and other things i didn't mention), you'll need a new transmission (b16 or b18) b/c the gears in your LS tranny will make your N/A LS/vtec motor pretty gay when you constantly fall out of your powerband....i know from experience
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Seminole83 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yup...that's how it starts...you're fooled into thinking it's cheap just b/c the head only costs like $500....but what you don't realize is is that you need pistons (b16 or aftermarket) that's like $300 right there and labor on piston install alone is expensive as sh*t...you need a new VTEC ECU....(like $350) and opn top of all that (and other things i didn't mention), you'll need a new transmission (b16 or b18) b/c the gears in your LS tranny will make your N/A LS/vtec motor pretty gay when you constantly fall out of your powerband....i know from experience </TD></TR></TABLE>

it doesnt matter what you do its going to be expensive.

A stock GSR head on a stock LS block will yeild about 160 hp which is about the same as an ITR motor with more torque.

Beats spending 4+ grand on a ITR swap.

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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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i have looked into doing both with my 98 auto ls and after a few months of research i have learned that ls/vtec done properly will cost you more initially than a turbo setup, although both are good projects and will enhance the performance aswell as the fun factor of the car i would say that turbo is the easier of the two and you will notice a significant gain in power right off the start. either way you look at it the car will break and you will have to keep spending money...
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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It all really comes down to what your goals are. With a turbo LS, you'll lose some throttle response and driver input in the name of power. With the LS/VTEC, you won't be making as much power, but will have a more responsive engine that modulates easily with driver input. After having 2 turbocharged cars, I'm in love with the response I get from a good all motor setup. It all really comes down to what you want.
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