Hi guys i have a 97 integra with a ZC engine in there thats on its last legs so i want to get another engine in there, was thinking of just getting a next ZC, but i want some vtec, can i get some suggestions as to engine options that wont be too much of a hassle to put in and would come with vtec, also are there ZC's that come with vtec? Also what would the cost potentially be.

thanks much in advance, so im a bit of a noob when it comes on to cars

 

B18c1

 

if your integra has a ZC in it, it is probably a 1st gen, 86-89.... Nobody in their right mind would go through the trouble of swapping a d series motor (d16a1 = dohc ZC) into a b series chassis.

Are you sure its a 97? You could swap another ZC that is single cam and has vtec. That is the tradeoff with ZC/d series motors.

single cam vtec
OR
dual cam NON vtec

If you truly have a 97 with a ZC in it.... I don't know what to say. haha

 

yeah its a 97 the previous owner had placed that engine in there, the car was in an accident and i guess he took the engine out, i was wondering if i bought a current engine how much stuff would i have to change out and replace

 

Well, all ZC were either obd0 or obd1. There were TONS of motors (both dual cam and single cam) called ZC from japan. Take a picture and we can help you Identify it. just hope that its an OBD1 because if he swapped an OBD0 ZC in there, your wiring in your car will be straight ****ed up.

But yeah, theres no way of telling you which motor you have or how difficult it will be without a picture. ZC doesnt really mean much, damn japan is just confusing!

With which NEW motor you want, there are 2 or so options:


Option 1: Stay with D series (get another ZC)
Pros --> Cheap
Cons --> weak shitty motors. Less durability than a rice cracker, slightly harder to find, usually imported

Option 2: Go with B series (Id recommend an LS setup, b18a1/b1)
Pros --> Good torque, meant for your car, plentiful (more than a ZC)
Cons --> More expensive than option 1


Here is my guess:

You will need a new motor AND tranny. I'll assume you will do option 2 because that is what I would do. I'd recommend an LS motor, b18a1/b18b1, hydraulic, avoid cable transmissions.

Avoid b18c1/c5 because GSRs are too pricey and its simpler to just get an LS. If your car IS obd1, then get either a 92-93 B18A1 or 94-95 B18B1 since these are OBD1. If you get an OBD2 or OBD0, you will have to change some things around. Again, this really depends on your wiring schematic, I am going to guess its obd1 for the purpose of this post.

Get us a picture of your ecu and its code, this will let us know what you are running.

Other than motor+tranny, possibly a wiring harness (depending on the situation) and new axles. I doubt that b series and ZC axles are interchangable. Possibly shift linkage, throttle cable.... New motor mounts.... Again, if you stick with D series it will be more simple, but lame.... Ask me more questions if you'd like, im sort of just brisking and mumbling....

 

thanks alot for your advice man i really appreciate it, im gonna try and get a proper picture to post, id really luv to go with option 2 i miss the speed and reliability that i had with my 97 jetta ( i regret selling it now) how much do you estimate a b18a1 engine would cost?

thanks alot again

 

b18a1/b18b1 usually are the same price. Id say motor about 150$, tranny about 250, you could get both between 300-500 depending on MANY aspects. Those are the prices around here at least.... Im from Van BC, not sure about you.

EDIT: Don't forget you can always sell your complete swap to others. Lots of people in civics still look for ZC swaps.

 

ok cool im from Jamaica just wanted to see the US price equivalent, im gonna search for one of those

thanks alot again

 

If you do it right, then your Integra should have more speed and especially more reliability than your 97 Jetta (assuming it was a 2.slow).

 

my setup is gsr tranny, stage 3 clutch 9 lbs flywheel and LS motor.

runs VERY AGGRESSIVE thats because of the clutch n tranny.

reliability is awesome. maintnence is cheap and runs beautiful .

anything less then an LS engiune/tranny in ur car and it isnt even worth having.

consider option 2 like he said.. ittl be worth it

else ull be lookin at these options again soon.