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Old May 12, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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so i had code 6 on from a bad Distributor and replaced it with a NEW one and still have CEL on...ive tried disconnecting the battery for a while...pulled the ECU fuse..pulled the hazard fuse and even tried disconnecting the ECU...nothing still have CEL...any help? maybe im doing something wrong.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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If you reset the ECU and the CEL immediately comes back on with the new distributor then it's probably a bad connection in the connector or wiring harness for the distributor.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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This sounded strange to me so I googled obd0 codes and clicked on 5 links...

1 link (g2ic teg tips) said code 6 is crank sensor (dizzy)
The rest of them said code 6 is ECT (coolant temp)

Then I got off my lazy *** and grabbed a haynes manual from the garage. It also says ECT.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 04:09 AM
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He's right, since yours is a '90 it's OBD0, I also saw ECT, Engine Coolant Temperature. I'm guessing that it comes on when you overheat. Can you verify that? Let the car idle for ~15 mins or take a drive, does the coolant temperature get passed the middle on the gauge?
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Old May 13, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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To check the ECT:

-Get the engine to full operating temp (t-stat open, fan cycles on a couple times)
-Turn off car
-Unplug ECT
-Use an ohmmeter and measure the resistance between the 2 terminals on the sensor.
-If resistance isn't between 200-400 ohms, the sensor is bad.

To check the circuit wiring:

-With the sensor still unplugged, turn the key to ON but don't start the car.
-Measure the voltage between the terminals in the plug on the HARNESS side.
-There should be 5 volts.
-If not 5 volts, there's a problem in the circuit wiring or the PCM itself.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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thanks got a new sensor and CEL came off..new problem now...after driving 10-15 minuets CEL turns on... i pulled over to read the code but nothing...so drove off and 5 mins later came on...read it while the car was on and still code6..no CEL on startup or anyhthing..comes on after a while driving but then turns of when i turn off the car...any helP?
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Old May 14, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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It will come on when there is a problem, it wont stay on. Your overheating for some reason. The ECU should store the last 3 codes before it's reset though. I would flush your cooling system, air bubbles in the coolant system can cause over heating too.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MD426
It will come on when there is a problem, it wont stay on. Your overheating for some reason. The ECU should store the last 3 codes before it's reset though. I would flush your cooling system, air bubbles in the coolant system can cause over heating too.
the temp needle is always in the normal operating temperature..right in the middle...i just did a coolant flush a month ago..
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Old May 14, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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There can still be air bubbles in the lines. I'm pretty sure the ECT sensor acts like the oil pressure sensor, it comes on when there is a problem then goes out when it's fine. The sensor is getting hot from somewhere or is shorting out.
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Old May 14, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Default Re: CEL problem on 90 DA

its a new sensor....how can i fix this? or how can i get the air bubbles out..but if it was overheating then why is the temp needle fine?
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Old May 15, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Old May 17, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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Old May 27, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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ok so i got my bros multimeter and got 5V out the harness plug...then measured the resistance on the sensor and got a little over 200....so reset the ECU twice still getting CEL while driving
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Old May 27, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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Check your 02 sensor (s), a CEL coming on when driving is an indication that there is a problem with one of the engines emission control systems.94
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Old May 27, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Check your 02 sensor (s), a CEL coming on when driving is an indication that there is a problem with one of the engines emission control systems.94
its showing up as code 6 when it comes on....after a couple mins of driving it comes on and ive pulled over while the car was still running and showed code 6 witch is ECT...its a new sensor ive check the voltage and the ohms and everything is fine
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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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FCM- Would the ECT not be considered an emission control? I figure it is since the ecu needs to see the right temp to run closed loop?

It seems to me if 5 volts is getting to the sensor and the sensor is new, the only part of the circuit that could be bad is the ECU.

I know air bubbles can do strange things, but I would think if that were the issue, there'd be other problems with overheating, sending unit, heater temp, iacv, etc.

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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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no overheating temp stays at normal operating range...ill switch out the ECU and see how that goes
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Old May 28, 2010 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by seanbev24
FCM- Would the ECT not be considered an emission control? I figure it is since the ecu needs to see the right temp to run closed loop?

It seems to me if 5 volts is getting to the sensor and the sensor is new, the only part of the circuit that could be bad is the ECU.

I know air bubbles can do strange things, but I would think if that were the issue, there'd be other problems with overheating, sending unit, heater temp, iacv, etc.
The ECT sensor is part of the emission control and I understand that he is still getting the code 6, but taking into account that the ECTS is new, voltage is good, impedance is within range, overheating is not an issue, I am assuming that the sensor is not the issue, nor is coolant, [low or bubbles in it] so it must be something else and a CEL when driving is most commonly caused by a problem with the 02 sensor.

I do agree that it can also be a problem with the ecu/ecm, mainly because of the code 6 still showing up, it does make sense, ECTS is good but still getting code.

I would ask, is the code being cleared properly? 94
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Old May 28, 2010 | 07:25 AM
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yes i properly reset the ECU a couple times already
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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I have the exact same problem on the 91 i just bought... :/

Gonna replace the o2 n see what happens
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