I have an 01 ls what should I do with it I like the sound of both of them
but what is your input?

or what about a GSR swap?


Modified by xDantex at 11:15 AM 10/31/2005

 

Are these your only two options? have you considered all other options?

LS/Turbo
or maybe even a GS-R swap?

But in my opinion, for what your gonna spend on one of these swaps you can build a 200hp+ LS/Turbo... But if its just between B16 and ls/v it depends on how much you have to spend, Ls/v would get my vote, i have an ls/v myself, i love it, its different and quick, but like i said for what I spent on my fully built Ls/V i coulda had 300hp+ easily..

 

thats what I'm afraid of. To have a good lsv that will last it will take quite a bit of money. and a gsr swap is too much. I think I wan to do a b16 and turbo that. but who knows too many options and not enough money.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDantex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats what I'm afraid of. To have a good lsv that will last it will take quite a bit of money. and a gsr swap is too much. I think I wan to do a b16 and turbo that. but who knows too many options and not enough money. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd do Ls-turbo before doing a b16 turbo, vtec is cool, but you can make plenty of power without. I have trouble with doing a b16 into an integra, I mean, the b16 is a good motor, but the b18s in my opinion are just a better all around motor, which is why Integras get b18, civics get b16

 

ok, i got a question for you. I have a 93 Del Sol S, and i am buying a 1990 Integra LS. Teg has 190,*** miles, and i want to swap it into my del sol. It runs good, doesn't burn oil, should i get it rebuilt or swap it into my car how it is? I want to make it an LS/Vtec, all i need is a GSR head right? Anything else i should know about it? Im picking up the car monday for 550 bucks. Im thinking thats a steal. thanks for any info

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KodSol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, i got a question for you. I have a 93 Del Sol S, and i am buying a 1990 Integra LS. Teg has 190,*** miles, and i want to swap it into my del sol. It runs good, doesn't burn oil, should i get it rebuilt or swap it into my car how it is? I want to make it an LS/Vtec, all i need is a GSR head right? Anything else i should know about it? Im picking up the car monday for 550 bucks. Im thinking thats a steal. thanks for any info</TD></TR></TABLE>

you could also use a Civic Si b16 head also. So your not limited to only the Gsr head

 

Personally I would rebuild it while it's out, especially if you're planning on making power out of it later.. put a nice low comp piston/rod combo in if you're going turbo, change the bearings, oil pump, etc.. or if you're going n/a, put whatever pistons in to acheive the compression that you want, as well as bearings, oil pump, etc.

It would be stupid to swap in a motor that you're just going to take back out again in a month or two when you want to start making changes, or worse, if something fails.

 

so the thing i would want to change first would be the pistions, then bearings and the oil pump. Ok, what about ECU, do i use the one thats in the Teg or get a new one? and a 1990 teg is OBD 1 right? cause that would make things a lot easier.

 

If you're planning on making good power and/or rev high, and are going to keep the stock rods, make sure you get some nice thick ARP rod bolts as well.. but I'd just get some aftermarket rods personally, I think in the vendors section they have brand new sets for all cars going for like $299 shipped! Hell of a deal if you ask me. Eagle rods come with nice ARP rod bolts, as well.

Also, I'm pretty sure 90-91 tegs were obd-0, and obd-1 started in 92.

 

if i were you, i would go with a b20 and slap a gsr head on it. It is just like ls/vtec except with a 2.0 crv motor instaed of a 1.8 ls motor. You will be pushing close to 200hp with the b20 instead of 156hp with the ls.

It is definetly worth it. You will be haulling ***! it is the best swap, but ost people hear ls/vtec all the time no one thinks to do it (and cuz the ls block is cheap), so that is my reccomendation. i have torn apart my teg and am doind a long block on my ls/vtec. I am going to re-sleeve it and bore it out to a 2.0. It is gonna be fast as ****! New high compression pistons, titanium rods, light and smaller crank! woow!

i have pics of miine in a thread that says help!!! i think i bent my valves.

Dude, if you need help let e know, i have done rebuilds on integras 3 or 4 times and its like the back of my hand. Let me know if you need help im ur guy trust me!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KodSol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so the thing i would want to change first would be the pistions, then bearings and the oil pump. Ok, what about ECU, do i use the one thats in the Teg or get a new one? and a 1990 teg is OBD 1 right? cause that would make things a lot easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would recommend going hondata

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spectrum24x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would recommend going hondata</TD></TR></TABLE>

That has absolutely nothing to do with what he asked.

You aren't going to be able to use the ECU from the integra without running a conversion harness, but that's pointless because OBD-1 is better for the tuning you're going to want to be doing eventually. Source an OBD-1 Integra LS ecu to use, it shouldn't be very much money.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mjc1055 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That has absolutely nothing to do with what he asked.

You aren't going to be able to use the ECU from the integra without running a conversion harness, but that's pointless because OBD-1 is better for the tuning you're going to want to be doing eventually. Source an OBD-1 Integra LS ecu to use, it shouldn't be very much money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought he was talking about an ecu for his Ls/Vtec setup, thus saying he should go hondata specifies to convert to obd 1, and use an obd 1 Vtec ecu, doesnt matter which one b/c it will be hondata chipped anyways.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spectrum24x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought he was talking about an ecu for his Ls/Vtec setup, thus saying he should go hondata specifies to convert to obd 1, and use an obd 1 Vtec ecu, doesnt matter which one b/c it will be hondata chipped anyways.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

well I don't want a 500 hp turbo car I just want something fast and cool to drive. b16 will be cheaper and I hope easier. can i use the same mounts? or what would I need to use a b16 motor?

 

either one will be fine as long as they are boosted
if your going na the b16 will be dog dog slow. i know cuz i just to have a b16 in my teg. a built all motor lsvtec might be bearable to drive if you not too power hungry

 

<FONT SIZE="5"> <FONT COLOR="red"> LSVTEC!!! cause i have one!!!!!! </FONT></FONT>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KodSol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so the thing i would want to change first would be the pistions, then bearings and the oil pump. Ok, what about ECU, do i use the one thats in the Teg or get a new one? and a 1990 teg is OBD 1 right? cause that would make things a lot easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

1990 teg is OBD 0. To make it plug in to your car, you need a 94-96 Ls dizzy, and you need to use the injectors that came with your del sol. You'll either have to chip your ECU with Uberdata, or chrome, and run an LS program on your current ECU, or you could just get a computer from a 94-96 LS (p75)


I would recommend chipping with uberdata or chrome, since you can basically change everything in the ecu. You can set VTEC activation, disable o2 sensors, even program a 2-step launch rev limiter. It's good ****, I got it on my car. And if you wanted, you could throw the LS in your car, and program te ecu to just run a LS motor, then you could make it LS-VTEC, and then program it to run VTEC, no problems.

 

Also, to run LS-V, instead of just LS, I think you need a 93 GSR dizzy

 

Go for the lsvtec

 

a b16 won't be slower than the ls motor though right? and I will eventually turbo it but for now I just want a little more power.

 

It would probably be a pretty close race.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mjc1055 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It would probably be a pretty close race.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nah, the b16 will woop the stock LS, my friend had a b16 and he spanked my teg before i got my ls/vtec.

"also, to run LS-V, instead of just LS, I think you need a 93 GSR dizzy"
You can cut a leg off... but if you buy the Vtec head, your likely to get the dizzy you will need.

I still say go LS/Turbo, you've got the LS already in there, you can make a good amount of power for cheaper then you'll spend on a b16 swap, or an LS/V conversion

 

b16 for more reliability and lsvtec if you want more power and has to be built right for reliability.

 

ahahaha get a hemi!!