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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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As I am rounding the end of my B18b build, I am realizing that fuel will most likely pose a minor problem in gaining ultimate performance. I have the stock computer and haven't really done much with the fuel system. I called RC Engineering and they gave me an injector size for my current setup but now I am beginning to question if that would change if I added an AFC controller and fuel pressure ragulator.

My question is this. I have never done anything with AFC controllers or anything like them. Can someone like me actually use the controller without getting completely lost? Or should I just get the car running and have some dyno/tuning time done? I know a bunch of you guys have these comtrollers so advice would be awesome.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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when u get an SAFC u can install it by urself (very simple to do). it's very simple to use after u read the manual a bit and play with it a few times. After u install it just make sure u have it on the right settings specified in the manual (i.e. throttle pointint up, in:06 out: 06, Pressure sensor, etc.) just leave all the setting at zero for now and then get it dyno tuned.

I have an SAFC on my LS right now. i did some minor street tuning with it (just enough so i can get the car idling pretty good cuz i recently installed some cams) im running stock injectors but upgraded to a B&M FPR
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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You should deff. get to a dyno, its hard to street tune with out a wideband. Are you going turbo or stay N/A? because if you are staying N/A and you have not bought the safc controller look into hondata, its really cheap for n/a cars with many more features.
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Old Nov 7, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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I want to go boost but I won't have the money for a long time. I build the engine with mild compression of around 9.5-9.6. The engine has been drastically altered. Bored .020, forged rods and pistons with ARP bolts, P&P head, cams, springs, retainers, throttle body, intake manifold, type-r oil pump, and i'm probably forgetting some stuff. What should I do?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 03:57 AM
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BUMP for some more suggestions.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:36 AM
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Default Re: AFC Controller Question. (Steak84SS)

an S-AFC allows you to adjust how much fuel you are getting in 500rpm increments so with a good air fuel gauge you could also get a basis to your settings before dyno tuning... i've never heard of any N/A car running out of fuel in the top end until i came here though, it kind of suprised me...

but i can also say you won't find a better price on a new one than on ebay, not even dealing direct unless you've been buying these by the hundreds...
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:40 AM
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Well how should I bump the fuel? Should I just do injectors and and a regulator? Do I really need an AFC without a turbo?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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OK. If no one has anymore advice, at least tell me what controller to get. I'm building and LS....NON-VTEC. I've called some pro's in CT and I think I'm going with 310 injectors, fuel pressure regulator, and the APEXi unit.............but which one?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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for an LS motor, u need to get either the Apexi SAFC or the SAFC II. both are the same except that the SAFC II has a few extra functions and comes in two color: black or blue face, while the SAFC only comes with a Blue face. u can get them cheap on ebay.

dont get the VAFC or VAFC II. those r for VTEC motors
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 03:50 AM
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Nice. Thanks alot for the tip. Wish me luck. I've never done any computer tuning before.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Steak84SS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want to go boost but I won't have the money for a long time. I build the engine with mild compression of around 9.5-9.6. The engine has been drastically altered. Bored .020, forged rods and pistons with ARP bolts, P&P head, cams, springs, retainers, throttle body, intake manifold, type-r oil pump, and i'm probably forgetting some stuff. What should I do?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Personally I think that 310's are overkill with that setup, especially since you are planning on running an SAFC with which you can not trim back the injector duty.

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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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if they are overkill, what size would i do and why?
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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Just ordered the APEXi S-AFCII from Ebay. Saved me a hundred duckets. Never used Ebay before other than price shopping.
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