dFreezy

haha laziness saves money!

809JDM

I would say if you have the money def go for it. Remember its your car so build it how you want. Yes its a bigger target for thieves but just remember thieves will take anything stamped with Honda/Acura. I had a completely stock auto civic taken from me, so just do what makes you feel happy and keep it safe. Oh and PLEASE make sure there not stolen if you decide to get it.

JdmTypeRdc2

iTrader: (1)

There is no real advantage besides the bigger brakes and wheel choices.

BUT

There has been a solution to the brake situation, thanks to Fastbrakes. You can now have that good stopping power and bigger brakes from the Fastbrakes kit.
As for the wheels, 5 lug has a lot of options, some very expensive however. So you gotta ask yourself...do i have another 3k for some nice 5 lug wheels?

For all that money, you can get bigger and better brakes and a set of very nice quality wheels for the 4x100...

I voted HELL NO.

jcidio

I voted no, don't know if anyone mentioned this, but another thing to consider is that the 5 lug would be heavier, has a greater rotational mass, and hence will decreases whp.

vladd

that goes for any brake upgrade. if you're adding bigger brakes the weight comes with it.

anyway, i've always thought converting to 5 lugs was a waste of $. that's a lot of money to pay for the extra jdm bling.

tilegend

HP=TORQUE X RPM / 5252

where does rotational mass come into play?

bluebomber

iTrader: (2)

What you posted is 100% wrong. There was no 94 or 95 JDM ITR, but 96-97 JDM ITR's have 4x114.3 (AKA "Big 4 lug").

There was never a 4x100 ITR made by Honda or Acura.

vladd

it comes into play when you consider that the power has to go through the axles, brakes, and wheels to reach the ground.

MrRide2Low

yes it's worth it, i have five lug on my ej1, stops like a bitch

tilegend

that wasn't my question.

vladd

well, that's what you had typed out. the weight of the rotors DOES affect whp.

tilegend

by how much? do tell.

vladd

what kind of question is that? that'd obviously depend on the weight and size of the rotors and how much hp the motor's putting out. hp at the crank /= whp in case you haven't realized.

tilegend

this was already debated a couple pages back, and every other 5 lug conversion thread... good day.

and btw a monkey would be able tell im obviously talking about the ITR rotors.

vladd

and? you asked where rotational mass came into play, and i told you. if you didn't want an answer then don't ask the question.

Seikensetzu

coming from a guy who has 5lugs.....not worth it. with the money you spend doing the swap you can buy a sick brake set up for your four lug. plus there are better rims (rare and easy to get) in a 4lug setup. just my .02 cents. then again if you want to spend the money for the 5lug go ahead

qazaq

go for it if u find a good deal!

if i get my hands on a set of JDM ITR wheel i would def go 5lug just for those. plus bigger brakes on top

tilegend

so if i chop of 100lbs off my car right now i'll gain whp?

im going to go drill holes in my rotors so i can gain more whp.... you think 10hp is a good estimate?

Targa250R

Stop being a tool. You know what he means. His original post specified wheel horsepower, which is obviously subject to drivetrain losses.

Rather than bickering back and forth, either post something constructive and educational, or STFU and GTFO.

vladd

you really are that stupid, aren't you? seems like you lack some basic knowledge of how stuff on cars works.

tilegend

i must do... which is why i asked you questions.

tilegend

thank you for constructive and educational post also.

DAintegraGSR

Well you can def throw on some sick wheel with a 5 lug, especially typre R rims and ****.

Dunc

This guy gets it, others do not.

Tilegend, go get some 1 million pound wheels made for your car and then put it on the dyno. Want to bet on lunch that your whp will be lower? I'll buy lunch if it's not.

tilegend

apples to oranges...

we're not comparing wheels weights here...

and i could easily take 1 million pound wheels... go on a dynapack dyno... and have it still read wheel horsepower thank you very much.

everyone can sit here with their theories on "supposed" drivetrain losses due to the increase in moment of inertia of the larger brake discs...

but not one person has posted any quantifiable data saying that yes... swapping from say LS disc brakes to ITR disc brakes will net you how much HP loss.

thus far everyone has just stated their assumptions based on physics but have not given any actual data.

and if someone is going to state that upgrading brakes will net a loss in HP well... i kinda want to know how much, to see if the benefits of one outweights the other.