B18C_EJ8

Here's the story... No, not of a lovely lady, but of a guy getting screwed by New York State and their new BS emissions laws.

Back in 2000/2001, it was an awesome idea to drop a '94 GSR engine into my '98 Civic... Awesome I say.

Building the GSR for an all-motor "monster" a few years later was an even better idea!

Then, after after only making 190something whp, I became sickened when I thought of where I could be if I had dumped all of those thousands of dollars into a turbo setup, I decided that all-motor was not the way to go.

And finally, after dumping even more thousands of dollars into this turbo build, I have a pile of parts and a pissed off wife. Still, I proceed because this turbo thing is the best idea yet.

However, today when I got my reminder from the state that my registration was about to expire, I now want to set the car afire.

Due to the car being OBD2 and the engine being OBD1, I have obviously been unable to get the car inspected. I've gotten by for the past two years by swapping stickers from other vehicles. Very illegal, I know, but I didn't think that it would ever be checked.

I went to http://www.nysdmv.com and started the process of renewing my registration tonight. I punched in all of the appropriate information, had my checkbook ready, and clicked the "submit" button. Much to my surprise, up popped an error message stating "No vehicle emissions inspection proof found. You must have your vehicle inspected before you can renew. Contact Emissions Help line (877) 486-6438 for information."

[freak].

Now what? I started thinking of putting the car back to stock, which would involve rewiring the components that were removed from the harness when the swap was done, buying a D16, and buying an entire complete stock exhaust. A viable option, but would probably cost upwards of a thousand bucks, which I do not have.

I also read some some instances of removing the OBD1-OBD2 conversion harness and plugging in an OBD2 ECU and seeing what codes it throws. A better option, maybe. But I still wouldn't pass the bullshit visual inspection.

So, here I sit, enraged and at the same time bewildered.

I needed to rant, and at the same time, I'm wondering if anyone else has successfully converted an OBD1 engine to OBD2 to pass inspection.

I've come too far and invested far too much money to just cut & run or sell the car. The project needs to be finished, and a way to "circumvent" this system must be found.

B18C_EJ8

Temporarily convert of course..

Inspect, then revert back to OBD1 goodness.

Toda Party

iTrader: (2)

I've been considering using an obd1 motor in my obd2 car too...

I know the OBD2 Distributors have different plugs but u can probably just swap plugs (cheaper).

The obd2 oil pumps have the CFK sensor which the obd2 computer will look for....

Other than that I'm not sure what other emissions control crap you need cuz I know some of the emissions stuff is in the fuel tank or whatever...

Anyone else have a clue lol?


btw yes

Toda Party

iTrader: (2)

I agree

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/faq-obd2-into-obd1-into-obd0-into-vice-versa-wiring-only-1842858/

B18C_EJ8

Bumping this thread, because it's been 28 months and I still haven't figured out what to do with the damn thing.

My brother-in-law and another friend have started projects, so I'm starting to regain interest, but at the same time, I don't want to dump any more time or money into this car until I find some definitive answers. Had some ideas, but I'm thinking there HAS to be someone in the great state of New York who has done this...

sdobson910

I was attemping a similiar swap, 94 LS into 2000 civic. http://www.ht-archive.com/showthread.php?t=1972711, check that link if you havent allready. You need either a obd2 oil pump for the ckf sensor and also the lower obd2 timing cover. Dizzy jumper harness, injector converted to obd2, alternator is also a dif plug, and a USDM p72 ecu. If all that is allready wired up then all you need is the obd2 ecu 96-98 would be better because of no immobilizer, then either use the ckf trick or get a obd2 oil pump and use the sensor from your civic harness.

94EG8

You don't need most of this stuff. You absolutely do not need injectors, distributor or alternator. Simply perform the CKF trick shown here ---> http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm and run an OBD2A USDM P72. '96 - '97 P72s do not look for a fuel tank pressure sensor which your civic may or may not have depending on the trim level (EX civics I believe have it) later ECUs look for it and will throw a code if its not there, so if you don't feel like swapping your gas tank get an early ECU. Thats basically all there is to it unless they check to see what year the engine is, then you're screwed no matter what you do.

RocSteadyNy

Sorry to wake up a y/o thread... but would this work for obd0-2 as well.. I what seems to b a good deal on an obd0 b16 swap. but i have an obd2 car.

B18C_EJ8

No it's cool... Hopefully in the year since the last posts, someone has made some progress.