96hb

KYB AGX's are OK shocks, but Koni sports are much better. I got about 60k miles out of my AGX's before they started giving me problems, leaking, etc. I had them paired with Ground Controls though and not some cheap *** springs from ebay. Do it right the first time and save up and get some quality equipment. There is a reason why everyone here recommends the Koni/GC setup. It will give you years of great performance.

CMT8281

Wait, so this great deal for coni's I'm about to buy on ebay isn't the same as koni's? But they're painted yellow!

ekDeadmau5

im adding a question here, sorry, im looking into some full coilovers from skunk2. those any good? or is saving for something else better?. also with full coilovers, new shocks are still recommended right? or will the stock shocks hold off for a while ?

CMT8281

I'm restoring my 99 civic EX. It has 205k miles and it's still a daily driver, so I don't plan on going too crazy with it. Want to make some upgrades so it looks and rides better. Suspension is in desperate need of replacement, and I'm looking at koni yellow's with the eibach pro-plus suspension kit. It is still a daily driver so I'm trying to keep a comfortable ride, but want to know the capability to "play" is there when I want to. Is that a good shock/spring combo? Any different recommendations?

Red_Army

for one make your own thread.

coni yellows would not be the same i'd guess as koni yellows. specially on ebay.

and skunk2 coilovers suck.

98civdx

I am confused on what your trying to say here.

You really should start your own thread, instead of thread jacking.

Skunk2 coilovers aren't good.

With a "full coilover" you get the sleeve and the shock in one. That's way it's called a "full coilover"

With Slip on coilovers, yes, you should be replacing the shocks.
Stock shocks wont hold up.

For that type of spring look at the koni STR-T or go with the eibach shock.

There is any good lowering spring and the Koni STR or the yellow. Yellows will handle much more the STR will.

94EG8

Urg. KYB make good shocks, but stock shocks with coilovers are just a recipe for disaster. Like everyone else said, buy some quality parts. I have heard really good things in the past about using KYB GR2s and Tien S-techs (non adjustable but it will give you a bit of a drop and good ride quality.

Moved to the suspension forum for better responses.

CMT8281

Thanks 98 civdx, my first post about the coni's was slightly mocking the idea of buying crazy cheap products on ebay.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

KONI! Not coni.

akacoke

riding slammed with ebay coilovers on stock shocks? OP got *****

Libertariat

Don't confuse courage with stupidity.

akacoke

nah , i was just saying


i would put everything back to stock if i am broke and have a car with ebay generic stuffs, lowering for better hanling and flush look is good, slammed for the attention is not cool.

Drive 4 fun

You need to match damping to spring rates. Some of the cheap springs have high rates and the shocks are not adequate. I learned this the hard way, years ago, as perhaps some others did who are trying to help. I used new coilovers on old shocks and blew them. Got it covered with warranty, and then blew one of the new shocks and figured it out. May not feel like but we are trying to help.

m_shake

"Why would I spend over a $1000 on coilover suspension when I can cut my springs for less then $20?"

FlewByU352

This sounds like just about everyone in my town regardless of make and model of car or truck. Once you drive or ride in a car with quality suspension, you quickly notice that it really is that much better and you do get what you pay for, unless we are talking D2 and I believe KSPORT is the same coilover just a different color. Then you overpaid for something that is eh and we have pictures of breakage.

98civdx

You don't need to spend a 1k to have a good setup.

If you all you want to do is slam the car get F&F, but if you actually want to have a functioning car Koni/GC, PIC, AMR.

Some people like have a functional ride height, and a car that actually handles good. Can your cut springs do that?

Some people don't like worrying about dieing becuase they skimped on one of the most important area's on the car.

Cutting your stock springs is dangerous, PERIOD!

m_shake

It's a joke people!!! Has no one here seen the hellaflush cartoon vid on you tube? Never ran anything other then koni/gc on any of my cars except my first crx which had progress coils when i got it lol

ra648

The problem isn't so much the ebay coilovers. As they are just a spring and perch (unless the perch is made of brittle *** plastic). The spring is a just a spring like any other. The real problem is when you have a shock/strut that is made to handle a certain spring and weight, and then you throw on an ebay spring with unknown stiffness and bounce all over the place because you're under damped. I think an ebay coilover can be used if you know the spring-rate and choose a shock to match.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

This is a big load. I wish people would stop saying this.

You might want to mention that with the Ebay springs/coilovers you are also dealing with no R&D. Unknown methods of manufacture and more than like NO quality control. Among other things.

Libertariat

False. Would you like to tell me which one of these is best for making springs? Please tell me:

1074/1075
1095 (A684)
5160 (A689)
9255

Is a spring better made from medium carbon steel or high carbon steel? Are they best made by cold wound or hot wound manufacturing?

Let legitimate companies who have been in the spring making business for decades make the decisions on proper manufacturing techniques. The market will decide who wins. Good luck suing an Ebay company who selling BRIC manufactured goods when your car falls apart.

Note: Please refrain from bumping old threads. Keep this discussion technical and I'll resist the temptation to lock it.

ra648

Well after a bit of wiki research, id say medium carbon content and hot wound manufacturing would be better for springs (hot wound due to consistency in manufacturing). And since all those alloys are spring steel alloys, they would all work fine for springs. That being said, buying high quality springs would guarantee a consistent result. But that does not mean that cheapo ebay springs are total garbage either because they haven't been tested (that being said i have never bought a set myself). If someone somewhere went through the effort of testing these springs then maybe some nice discoveries could be made and inferences could be made based on numbers. But my main point is that the shocks are where it counts more than springs for ride quality.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

This is such tripe. How do you suppose to be able to tell which are garbage and MAYBE which $35 set of coilover springs MIGHT have the slimmest possibility of being "good". Answer? You cannot. Therefore don't play Russian Roulette with your suspension and purchase from companies that know what they're doing.

And the very last sentence is BS as well. Shocks and springs work together as a system. You obviously know very little about spring rates.