Suspension & Brakes Theory, alignment, spring rates....

Will KYB shocks help my ride quality with ebay coilovers?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-19-2011, 12:27 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
toshko321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Will KYB shocks help my ride quality with ebay coilovers?

Hey guys i have a set of coilover sleeves from ebay for my 99 civic. but the shocks are completely blown out im guessing because my car has been bouncing around like crazy and its stiff as hell when it bounces. do u guys think that a set of kyb shocks will make my car better, as in not as bouncy and stuff? let me know if new shocks will solve my problem.

Last edited by 94EG8; 06-25-2011 at 04:19 AM.
toshko321 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:30 PM
  #2  
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
grumblemarc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

No. Stop messing with that Ebay crap and get a decent suspension set up.
grumblemarc is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:33 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
toshko321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

whats the difference between the Ebay sleeves and the professional sleeves that you guys spend hundreds of dollars on...... i asked if new shocks would make it not as bumpy and u just tell me to not buy Ebay stuff.
toshko321 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:35 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
HOMEMADEPOWER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: TX
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Kyb shocks are bad shocks to get if i was you i would stick with what you have for now and save some $ for a set of fully adjustable coilovers.Its alot more money to spend but in the long run its worth it.
HOMEMADEPOWER is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:38 PM
  #5  
Ek Forever y0!
 
Libertariat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Beating people with a stick, GA
Posts: 16,712
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

You've got no idea what quality of material is used in making the spring and more importantly the sleeve. You could get into a very serious accident using a faulty product from a company you'd likely never get any legal compensation from.

The reason you're here asking these questions is because you cheaped out on suspension. People with quality suspension like Koni/Progress/Etc don't have to ask these questions because they're quality products that people put hundreds of thousands of miles on.

Get a full coilover that is reputable like progress or go with the undeniably best bang for buck Koni/Ground control.

If you want to put and end to having suspension problems quit buying junk. Plain and simple.
Libertariat is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:38 PM
  #6  
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
grumblemarc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Originally Posted by toshko321
whats the difference between the Ebay sleeves and the professional sleeves that you guys spend hundreds of dollars on...... i asked if new shocks would make it not as bumpy and u just tell me to not buy Ebay stuff.
If you don't know the answer to that then I don't know what to tell you? Why do you think your shocks are blown in the first place? And you're thinking of getting pretty much OEM replacements. By the time you keep replacing blown and crappy equipment you could have saved for that "professional" setup.
grumblemarc is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:38 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
toshko321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

but wouldnt it make my car not bouncy since they are brand new shocks and they are not blown out like my stock ones? lol im still not getting an answer if they will change the way my car rides.
toshko321 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:40 PM
  #8  
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
grumblemarc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Buy them and find out. You're not listening.
grumblemarc is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:40 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
toshko321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

will a set of skunk2 shocks make it better then?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SKUNK...ht_2445wt_1165
toshko321 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:41 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
toshko321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

my sleeves are completely adjustable, so it will be equivalent to having a cheap set of coilovers.
toshko321 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:42 PM
  #11  
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
grumblemarc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Originally Posted by toshko321
my sleeves are completely adjustable, so it will be equivalent to having a cheap set of coilovers.
No. It doesn't.
grumblemarc is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:45 PM
  #12  
Ek Forever y0!
 
Libertariat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Beating people with a stick, GA
Posts: 16,712
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Trust us. Start over and buy real suspension. Avoid skunk2 like the Bubonic plague. Much better options out there.

If you have to be absolutely a cheap-*** buy Koni Srt and a Neuspeed/H&R/Tein spring that has the height/rate requirement you'd like.

Or you could spring for ground control + koni SRT, that would be about $600 and you'd get a lifetime warranty on both.
Libertariat is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:45 PM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
toshko321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

lol im just gonna stop asking questions on Honda-tech, u guys give the worst advice of all, as a matter of fact u dont even give advice, u just tell me, "dont buy EBay crap, buy quality suspension", which is completely off topic to what i was asking in the first place
toshko321 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:47 PM
  #14  
Ek Forever y0!
 
Libertariat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Beating people with a stick, GA
Posts: 16,712
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Originally Posted by toshko321
lol im just gonna stop asking questions on Honda-tech, u guys give the worst advice of all, as a matter of fact u dont even give advice, u just tell me, "dont buy EBay crap, buy quality suspension", which is completely off topic to what i was asking in the first place
How is it bad advice for us to help you appreciate the value of quality parts?

KYB is junk for what it is. There are better options. Is that better?

I know exactly what you're doing. You're trying to bandaid a problem using cheap-*** store brand band aids. You aren't trying to fix the root of the problem.

Like grumble said, the KYB shocks will blow eventually too, and you'll be back here asking us for "advice" once again. Grumble and I are both well seasoned in doing **** wrong the first time and it is very expensive.
Libertariat is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:55 PM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
delsolo95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 1,042
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

OMG! listen to ek forever and grumblemarc. obviously they been in the game for a long time to tell you what is good and what is not. progress are by far the cheapest yet good rated coilover setup you can get from my research
delsolo95 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:57 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
toshko321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

alright, *** it then, ill just roll on what i have. i paid $30 for my sleeves and its bumpy for the past 2 years. but i guess ill just keep going with that since the KYB wont make a differnce.
toshko321 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 12:58 PM
  #17  
Ek Forever y0!
 
Libertariat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Beating people with a stick, GA
Posts: 16,712
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Originally Posted by delsolo95
OMG! listen to ek forever and grumblemarc. obviously they been in the game for a long time to tell you what is good and what is not. progress are by far the cheapest yet good rated coilover setup you can get from my research
indeed, progress is the best budget coilover at $580. The only other cheap alternative I recommend is Koni/SRT + choice of ground control or lowering spring.
Libertariat is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 01:03 PM
  #18  
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
grumblemarc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Originally Posted by ek forever guy
indeed, progress is the best budget coilover at $580. The only other cheap alternative I recommend is Koni/SRT + choice of ground control or lowering spring.
If he only paid $30 for his coilover sleeves I seriously doubt he has the scratch for even a budget Progress setup. I don't think your version of cheap is the same as his.
grumblemarc is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 01:07 PM
  #19  
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
grumblemarc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

Originally Posted by toshko321
alright, *** it then, ill just roll on what i have. i paid $30 for my sleeves and its bumpy for the past 2 years. but i guess ill just keep going with that since the KYB wont make a differnce.
Your shocks have probably been blown for the past 2 years. How low are you dropped BTW? What kind of spring rates do you get for $30? Because you know spring rates also play an important role in ride handling and quality.
grumblemarc is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 01:09 PM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
carrollea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Suspension Question

shocks reduce spring oscillation. the ebay rubbish springs are way to hard.
carrollea is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 02:09 PM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
toshko321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

i just have Ebay coilover sleeves, dropped all the way down in the rear, front isnt all the way down yet.
this is basically what i have, just cheaper when i got it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-95...#ht_3333wt_939
toshko321 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 02:15 PM
  #22  
The Grumpiest
iTrader: (4)
 
grumblemarc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oak Ridge, TN, USA
Posts: 28,333
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

That+dropped too low+stock springs=blown shocks and shitty ride.
I repeat. What spring rate does $30 get you?
"25%-30% stiffer than stock springs" doesn't mean squat.
grumblemarc is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 03:13 PM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
integratyper1990's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: MA, us
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Suspension Question

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
No. Stop messing with that Ebay crap and get a decent suspension set up.
Agreed. worst thing you can do is buy cheap ebay sleeves. Stay away from ebay no name products.
integratyper1990 is offline  
Old 06-19-2011, 04:16 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
ticketmang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: canyon city,azusa
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

You will still get some bounce with stiff shocks because of the spring rate. Megan coilovers are good imo.
ticketmang is offline  
Old 06-20-2011, 08:06 AM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Red_Army's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: nowhere ville.
Posts: 2,039
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Suspension Question

megan is just as bad as ebay.

AGX are the only KYBs i'd buy even then koni/gc is a better deal.

do research kid. told you in the other post. tell you again. google. yes it'll bring you here but for what you asked for. and don't get mad when your not spoon fed.
Red_Army is offline  


Quick Reply: Will KYB shocks help my ride quality with ebay coilovers?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:26 AM.