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Old 09-01-2011, 07:45 AM
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Ive got an appointment tomorrow with Chris Harris of Xenocron for an s300 and tune.
Im excited and just wondering what you guys think will be the outcome.

93 civic
fresh OEM rebuilt 99 b18c5 (compression results show 250psi across all 4, 4% leakdown)
All stock everything internally except arp rod bolts
93octane pump gas


Boltons:
3" CAI behind the bumper
RMF Narrow Header
2.5" testpipe
2.5" Apexi NOIR Catback
255 Fuel pump
Hondata Intake Gasket
BLOX FPR
ID 725cc Injectors
CTR Crank pully
Exedy LW Flywheel

Fresh plugs, wires, fuel filter.

Think 200whp is possible? What should the rev limiter be set to?

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if u have been following this board, we dont like to guess horse power.
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just dyno it and post your results here then we'll talk.
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186whp
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186whp
Nah, at least 186.5
Old 09-01-2011, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Libertariat
Nah, at least 186.5
haha 186.7 and no higher sir lol. In a hatch man its going to be quick regardless, and why not get a mugen intake then
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180 exactly
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Hah

Thanks for humoring me guys. hard to contain the excitement.
Results for sure tomorrow!
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dont come on here, asking what we think the rev limit will be..

Chris is good at what he does, trust his judgement. This car should easily make 180-190whp.

Get rid of the ctr pulley, unless you wanna be replacing oil pumps every other 5 months.
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So far on the high side with 190.....I got faith ha.

Personally i like these threads as long as the OP comes back with results..(not some fantasy build)
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Yeah I don't see it making any higher than 193 whp honestly speaking. ITR cams like to stay under 200 whp unless the compression is raised which in this case it is not.
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The engine will make what it is going to make.
You can only add so much timing & try so many different fuel mixtures...

Some people think tuners have some kind of magical power that can extract hidden horsepower from their laptop... It doesn't work like that.
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Originally Posted by mtber
Some people think tuners have some kind of magical power that can extract hidden horsepower from their laptop... It doesn't work like that.
well, in all fairness, making an engine run on some management systems IS magic...

From here on out, my tuning uniform will include a 3' tall Fantasia-style purple sorcerer hat.
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Originally Posted by sc_at_QuaifeUS
well, in all fairness, making an engine run on some management systems IS magic...

From here on out, my tuning uniform will include a 3' tall Fantasia-style purple sorcerer hat.
lol



This guy is a really good tuner y0!
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725cc injectors? running e85 later on or boosting later on?

99 b18c5 ? didnt think they made the ITR in 99, thought they skipped from 98 to 2000 ???

I'm with the guys betting 186.5whp lol


Originally Posted by FkingSUV
Ive got an appointment tomorrow with Chris Harris of Xenocron for an s300 and tune.
Im excited and just wondering what you guys think will be the outcome.

93 civic
fresh OEM rebuilt 99 b18c5 (compression results show 250psi across all 4, 4% leakdown)
All stock everything internally except arp rod bolts
93octane pump gas


Boltons:
3" CAI behind the bumper
RMF Narrow Header
2.5" testpipe
2.5" Apexi NOIR Catback
255 Fuel pump
Hondata Intake Gasket
BLOX FPR
ID 725cc Injectors
CTR Crank pully
Exedy LW Flywheel

Fresh plugs, wires, fuel filter.

Think 200whp is possible? What should the rev limiter be set to?
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Originally Posted by CHEETAH
725cc injectors? running e85 later on or boosting later on?

99 b18c5 ? didnt think they made the ITR in 99, thought they skipped from 98 to 2000 ???

I'm with the guys betting 186.5whp lol
Whoops, typo. 98 is correct
725s for overhead. 75+ shot of juice in the near future.
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Originally Posted by mtber
The engine will make what it is going to make.
You can only add so much timing & try so many different fuel mixtures...

Some people think tuners have some kind of magical power that can extract hidden horsepower from their laptop... It doesn't work like that.
Don't lie to me like that John, I know you have special powers lol. BTW one of these ****ing days I need to have you tune my car. Actually you could probably use the tune you did previously on a ITR because we have the exact same mods. Maybe just throw the A/F on there to make sure its all good.
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Default Re: Tune appointment for tomorrow. Expectations?

Originally Posted by mtber
The engine will make what it is going to make.
You can only add so much timing & try so many different fuel mixtures...

Some people think tuners have some kind of magical power that can extract hidden horsepower from their laptop... It doesn't work like that.
x2 exactly idk why people always think that
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GREAT day at the dyno with Chris and the guys from Xenocron. I cant say enough good things about them.


Originally Posted by mtber
The engine will make what it is going to make.
You can only add so much timing & try so many different fuel mixtures...

Some people think tuners have some kind of magical power that can extract hidden horsepower from their laptop... It doesn't work like that.
Originally Posted by hpmx18
x2 exactly idk why people always think that
Clearly you guys have not yet had the pleasure of dealing with Chris Harris. I would not bat an eye if the next time i walked into the shop he was wearing a wizard hat. Even his 'business face' (while working the dyno), is confidence inspiring all by itself. There is no doubt in my mind that something magical happened today.

Final results!
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Wow, that's impressive.
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Nice power. Is that dip after vtec normal? Maybe the craigslist?
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wow .. 208whp with a stock b18c5 boltson , especially a noir muffler ? impressive !
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At 100% VE at 8800 rpm, a B18 on gas should be in the neighborhood of ~225 observed flywheel horsepower.

So if you're putting down 208 - that's pretty good! Enjoy it!
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Originally Posted by SL0WEGG
Nice power. Is that dip after vtec normal? Maybe the craigslist?
The Vtec valve takes a few seconds to build up pressure
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I have met chris from xenocron. He practices voodoo not magic.



Just kidding :-)

Nice results dude!


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