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Old 10-08-2010, 09:25 PM
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Default Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

Spilled a tad bit of antifreeze near starter area and a lot on the front-end of the tranny.

While trying to wipe the starter dry, a shock, spark, or burst ignited near the starter.

Afterward, car would not start.
Checked the fuses and they were pretty much wrong.
I have a 1995 Integra GSR.

Here are my fuses
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The starters main power is not fused, the starter solenoid control, [starter lead] is fused at main ign. switch fuse, [main fuse].

Do you hear the fuel pump prime, [run for a few sec.] when you turn ign. switch to run, [not start]?
Do you have power at the injectors, lead that is the same color on all 4 injector plugs should be 12V+ when ign key is in run and start positions? 94

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The starters main power is not fused, the starter solenoid control, [starter lead] is fused at main ign. switch fuse, [main fuse].

Do you hear the fuel pump prime, [run for a few sec.] when you turn ign. switch to run, [not start]?
Do you have power at the injectors, lead that is the same color on all 4 injector plugs should be 12V+ when ign key is in run and start positions? 94
Is the main ignition switch fuse the first one that says "ACG?"
Yes, I do hear the fuel pump prime.

I do not understand the last question. Please help.
Thanks!
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

check the fuse box in the engine bay.
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

I was checking fuses because my father told me to.
He did not seem to know about the 100a, and 50a. So I checked all the fuses but the ANL types.

I didn't even know they were fuses to be honest.

So can someone explain to me why the starter area sparked?
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

Originally Posted by unknownally
Is the main ignition switch fuse the first one that says "ACG?"
Yes, I do hear the fuel pump prime.

I do not understand the last question. Please help.
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the main fuses are in the engine bay fuse box, they are the ones that are screwed into place.

Main batt. fuse should be a 100A, it must be good or fuel pump will not prime.
there will be a 50A fuse for lights and a 50A for ign.

You need to go through all your fuses and replace them with the correct ones, [under dash fuse box] installing "bigger" fuses then called for can result in your car burning to the ground, at the very least if there is a problem with a load an over-sized fuse will burn harness wiring.
Check the engine bay fuse box fuses also to make sure the correct ones are installed

You need to do the above before you do anything else.

A spark at the starter could be from a short, but if starter is still working then the starter and starter solenoid are good.

You will need to test for fuel and spark, the first test is to test for power, [12V+] at the injector, the wire that is the same color at the injector plug should be 12V+ when the ign. switch is turned to run and start.
Next, try and start the car, 2-3 times in a row, then immediately remove a spark plug and inspect the end, is it wet with gas, does it smell of gas, can you light it up with a lighter.
If there is gas on the end of the plug, plug it back into the spark plug lead and ground the plug to the engine and have someone crank the engine to start, do you have spark at the plug, how good is the spark? 94
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

The ground wire on the starter sparked and nearly took my friend's finger off. What's going on?
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

The ground wire can't spark. But the positive wire on the starter could have sparked. Did he have anything metal down there?

If you need a photo of my fuse box so you see which ones it should have, PM me your email.
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

Originally Posted by mikespike2
The ground wire can't spark. But the positive wire on the starter could have sparked. Did he have anything metal down there?

If you need a photo of my fuse box so you see which ones it should have, PM me your email.
Thanks I appreciate it, but I already have a photo.


The 12mm one is the one that shocked him. He had a socket on it and the battery was still attached.
The wire was sitting at an angle. It was twisted counter-clockwise, touching the other plug thing.]

I hear the car screeching when I start it, but my cousin said he doesn't hear it turning over.
Could I rebuild the starter or is the actual motor bad?

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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

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I hear the car screeching when I start it,
The above is kind of confusing...

What do you mean when you say, "I hear the car screeching when I start it" first, I assume you mean you TRY and start it, as the problem is the engine will not start.

You also say, "but my cousin said he doesn't hear it turning over" does that mean the engine is not cranking, [turning over] at all when you try and start it.

It sounds like you may be saying that when you try and start it, [ign. key at the start position] you can hear the starter motor working, [screeching] but engine does not turn over, [crank], like starter motor is not engaging the engine even though it does work.

If that is what you mean, then the problem is the starter solenoid. 94
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

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The above is kind of confusing...

What do you mean when you say, "I hear the car screeching when I start it" first, I assume you mean you TRY and start it, as the problem is the engine will not start.

You also say, "but my cousin said he doesn't hear it turning over" does that mean the engine is not cranking, [turning over] at all when you try and start it.

It sounds like you may be saying that when you try and start it, [ign. key at the start position] you can hear the starter motor working, [screeching] but engine does not turn over, [crank], like starter motor is not engaging the engine even though it does work.

If that is what you mean, then the problem is the starter solenoid. 94
Dude you are freaking awesome. You understood exactly what I meant even though I couldn't explain it right. Yes, everything you said was true.

I hear the whining noise when I try to start the engine. The electric-sounding noise. Sorry I don't know how to explain it.

...but it isn't turning over (cranking).

So then maybe I can just rebuild my starter.
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Pull the starter and have it tested at an auto parts store or starter/alt. shop, you can even "bench test it" yourself, clamp it in a vice use jumper cables to connect it to a batt., [pos.(+) of batt. to the 12mm stud/nut and neg.(-) of batt. to the starter case/housing] then us a jumper to jump from the pos.(+) to the starter solenoid input, you should find the starter motor runs/spins but but the pinion gear does not move out, if it does stick your finger in the hole, [in tranny] that the starter motor goes into and feel the ring gear on the flywheel for missing "teeth" , lets hope the problem is the starter motor solenoid. 94
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

It turns out the starter was fine. It was the ignition rotor. Car starts now!

THX!
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So starter was cranking the engine, the engine was turning over just not starting. 94
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Yeah, I thought it was cranking but my knuckle head cousin told me it wasn't turning over. IDK lol.

He acts like he knows a lot about cars but usually just ends up making life harder for me when he helps.
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Default Re: Car cranks but won't start. Spilled antifreeze...

^^ I got a lot of those kind of know it all friends also. The worse ones are the ones that just started school in automotive and acts like they know everything there is to know. Boy do they love to remind you they go to school for it, somehow they still lead you the wrong way.lol
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