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Bense · 05-21-2006, 08:58 AM

I've been seeing a lot of threads with this question, so I figured I'd give a good answer in a thread with a thread topic that you can search for.

all sohc d-series from 88-95 have longer head bolts than the 96-00 d-series.

on all the 88-95 d-series, the bolt that goes nearest to the solenoid (rear passenger side corner) the mating surface on the cylinder head is raised, so that it makes up for the difference in thread depth on the 88-95 blocks. My only guess is because of the water passage is in the way of where the headbolt would be.

Like I said earlier, because of where the headbolt meets the cylinder head on the 88-95 heads is raised, we are completely oblivious to it.

I don't care what any of the threads have stated, or what your cousin's second uncle has stated. This is the correct information:

When using a 88-95 block and 96-00 head, you need 9 88-95 bolts, and ONE 96-00 bolt. Of course the shorter 96-00 head bolt goes in the corner where the vtec solenoid is or would be (passenger rear corner)

When using a 88-95 head and a 96-00 block, you need 9 96-00 bolts, and ONE 88-95 bolt for where the vtec solenoid is/would be.

As you can see, when people say to use the bolts for whatever head, that doesn't always apply. And to use the bolts for whatever block, that doesn't always apply.

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d16vtecx · 05-21-2006, 09:13 AM

good info

y7turbo · 05-21-2006, 10:48 AM

so when im using arp studs i have to buy another set for the z6 and only use 1 stud?

y8 block gonna use a z6 head soon.

Bense · 05-21-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y7turbo

so when im using arp studs i have to buy another set for the z6 and only use 1 stud?

y8 block gonna use a z6 head soon.

call arp directly and ask them, they should let you order a single stud.

happyabortion · 05-22-2006, 04:51 PM

your the man guy thanx!!

TheLastSpartan · 05-22-2006, 07:40 PM

awesome write up. I like how the title was extra extra long; made me want to read it

Bense · 05-22-2006, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastSpartan

awesome write up. I like how the title was extra extra long; made me want to read it

this is the type of stuff you WISH you saw when you were searching for this.

lsturboguy · 08-29-2006, 02:04 PM

didnt search when doing my newest mini me.. D15B7 with D16Y8 head and 2 layer headgasket.. i fought and fought.. i thot it could have been water.. anyways.. still had the headbolts from the Y8 head so i just tossed that one in and didnt torque it too much thinking i could have stripped something.. ill go torque that now that i know its ok

Eyal 951 · 08-29-2006, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bense

this is the type of stuff you WISH you saw when you were searching for this.

Tell me about it!

Z6 studs with one custom stud (Part number found on D-Series.org) on my Z6 block Y8 head. The Y8 studs everyone told me to get were NOT RIGHT.

BTW, I have one extra Z6 stud if anyone wants.

jtmartin96civic · 12-23-2006, 08:38 AM

good info

chiman72 · 12-25-2006, 03:45 AM

He's telling the truth. I recently tried to mate a D16z6 head to a Y7 block and all the studs were to long except 1 (using D16z6 ARp's). I can take pics and post them after X-mas.

Rodney · 12-25-2006, 05:29 AM

figures... bense is a "stud" expert

schardbody · 12-25-2006, 06:36 AM

is this not in the FAQ yet??

Bense · 01-12-2007, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodney

figures... bense is a "stud" expert

Only if they're related

purple98ek · 03-17-2007, 07:26 PM

good info, bense

Throwdown · 03-17-2007, 07:30 PM

wow ... and i was just talking to nerdsports about what studs i need for a y7block w/ a z6 head and you just answered the question ...good post

this needs to go in the archive for sure

sundownz · 03-19-2007, 07:12 AM

I'm a bit confused on my setup -- D15B7 block with D16Y8 head. Which studs would I use?

9x D16Z6 ? (they don't make one for D15B7)
1x D16Y8

joshburke · 03-19-2007, 07:24 AM

When using a 88-95 block and 96-00 head, you need 9 88-95 bolts, and ONE 96-00 bolt.

sundownz · 03-19-2007, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshburke

When using a 88-95 block and 96-00 head, you need 9 88-95 bolts, and ONE 96-00 bolt.

My question is if ALL 88-95 bolts and ALL 96-00 bolts are the same as one another. Meaning that I could use the D16Z6 studs for the 9x 92-95 bolts that I need on my D15B7.

KodSol · 03-19-2007, 02:11 PM

The more i think about what was writen in this post, the more i want to convert my d15b7 head to a vtec head instead of rebuilding a LS motor and rebuilding everything else that comes with it and swapping that into my del Sol. If anybody thinks i should keep the d15b7 motor and swap the head, let me know, because i don't know what to do anymore. I don't have the money to rebuild a motor right now.

suspendedHatch · 03-19-2007, 03:08 PM

BEFORE YOU ORDER PARTS OR STICKY THIS TOPIC, you might want to read this thread. Scroll about halfway down until you see the pic.

the truth

I'm not saying that one Z6 head stud wont work with the Y8 head/Z6 block combo, but it's not the right head stud. You're risking a blown gasket, just like you would be if you reused the stock hardware. If you're going to go out of your way to order one stud, at least get the right one.

"IF YOU WANT TO RUN ARP STUDS ON Z6 BLOCK/Y8 HEAD YOU NEED THE FOLLOWING:

1) Z6 STUD KIT
2) PN# AM6.100-1LB DIRECT FROM ARP (1 piece)*"

Bense · 04-09-2007, 09:53 PM

lol, you DO realize that I posted in that thread that you linked, right? Well before I posted this thread here. That should tell you something

. a d a m · 06-23-2007, 09:05 AM

Turns out ARP has a headstud kit made specially for y8 heads on z6 blocks, so in other words that would work on an a6 as well according to the information posted here. Just a heads up so you guys don't have to order a single stud anymore.

Bense · 06-23-2007, 11:13 AM

nice, ARP is awesome

xbarspnx · 07-01-2007, 11:38 AM

I just recently had a D16Y5 motor in my 99 hatchback, my D16y7 bit the dust. I was wondering if a D16Y8 SOHC VTEC head will fit on a D16Y5 block.

Thanks

05-21-2006, 09:13 AM	#2
d16vtecx Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM, usa Posts: 742	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA good info __________________ 88 crx hf ZC vtec i/h/e 88 hatch i/e sold 95 civic JDM D15 vtec i/h/e R.I.P.

05-21-2006, 10:48 AM	#3
y7turbo Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: chicago, IL Posts: 589	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA so when im using arp studs i have to buy another set for the z6 and only use 1 stud? y8 block gonna use a z6 head soon.

05-22-2006, 04:51 PM	#5
happyabortion Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: port arthur, texas, us Posts: 684	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA your the man guy thanx!! __________________ FS/FT My k20 turbo EG!!! http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show...7#post41272417

05-22-2006, 07:40 PM	#6
TheLastSpartan Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chattanooga, TN, USA Posts: 396	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA awesome write up. I like how the title was extra extra long; made me want to read it

08-29-2006, 02:04 PM	#8
lsturboguy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Bay, ON, Canada Posts: 49	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA didnt search when doing my newest mini me.. D15B7 with D16Y8 head and 2 layer headgasket.. i fought and fought.. i thot it could have been water.. anyways.. still had the headbolts from the Y8 head so i just tossed that one in and didnt torque it too much thinking i could have stripped something.. ill go torque that now that i know its ok

12-25-2006, 03:45 AM	#11
chiman72 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Darmstadt/US Army, hessen, Germany Posts: 17	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA He's telling the truth. I recently tried to mate a D16z6 head to a Y7 block and all the studs were to long except 1 (using D16z6 ARp's). I can take pics and post them after X-mas.

12-25-2006, 05:29 AM	#12
Rodney Moderator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: hop,skip, and a jump from the city,, new friggin york, USA Posts: 5,308	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA figures... bense is a "stud" expert

12-25-2006, 06:36 AM	#13
schardbody Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ladson, sc, US Posts: 4,297	is this not in the FAQ yet??

03-17-2007, 07:26 PM	#15
purple98ek Banne*d Join Date: May 2005 Location: Akron, OH, USA Posts: 1,012	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA good info, bense

03-17-2007, 07:30 PM	#16
Throwdown Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: CAPITAL CITY Tallahassee D.S., Florida, U.S.A Posts: 2,078	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA wow ... and i was just talking to nerdsports about what studs i need for a y7block w/ a z6 head and you just answered the question ...good post this needs to go in the archive for sure __________________ <FONT COLOR="red">MY OLD EG </FONT> I <FONT COLOR="red">♥</FONT> STRAIGHT EDGE forever together united represent <FONT COLOR="brown">VOUCHES IN PROFILE</FONT> <FONT COLOR="olive">Tree Top Soldier</FONT>

03-19-2007, 07:12 AM	#17
sundownz Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 466	I'm a bit confused on my setup -- D15B7 block with D16Y8 head. Which studs would I use? 9x D16Z6 ? (they don't make one for D15B7) 1x D16Y8 __________________ - Jacob Fuller

03-19-2007, 07:24 AM	#18
joshburke Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Glen Burnie, MD Posts: 141	Re: (sundownz) When using a 88-95 block and 96-00 head, you need 9 88-95 bolts, and ONE 96-00 bolt.

03-19-2007, 02:11 PM	#20
KodSol Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hartford, WI, USA Posts: 112	Re: (sundownz) The more i think about what was writen in this post, the more i want to convert my d15b7 head to a vtec head instead of rebuilding a LS motor and rebuilding everything else that comes with it and swapping that into my del Sol. If anybody thinks i should keep the d15b7 motor and swap the head, let me know, because i don't know what to do anymore. I don't have the money to rebuild a motor right now.

03-19-2007, 03:08 PM	#21
suspendedHatch Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Locash Posts: 4,399	Re: (KodSol) BEFORE YOU ORDER PARTS OR STICKY THIS TOPIC, you might want to read this thread. Scroll about halfway down until you see the pic. the truth I'm not saying that one Z6 head stud wont work with the Y8 head/Z6 block combo, but it's not the right head stud. You're risking a blown gasket, just like you would be if you reused the stock hardware. If you're going to go out of your way to order one stud, at least get the right one. "IF YOU WANT TO RUN ARP STUDS ON Z6 BLOCK/Y8 HEAD YOU NEED THE FOLLOWING: 1) Z6 STUD KIT 2) PN# AM6.100-1LB DIRECT FROM ARP (1 piece)" __________________ Cause For Alarm ver7*

04-09-2007, 09:53 PM	#22
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Clemson, South Carolina! Posts: 9,233	Re: (suspendedHatch) lol, you DO realize that I posted in that thread that you linked, right? Well before I posted this thread here. That should tell you something __________________ One day you will see me in a fly lamborghini On my way to the beach picking up girls in bikinis I’m a hip-hop star and yo I’m bound to go far And all the girlies jump right on it...... When you drive a dope car http://people.clemson.edu/~ABense

06-23-2007, 09:05 AM	#23
. a d a m Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bajiniashyu No Richomondo Desu Posts: 2,909	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA Turns out ARP has a headstud kit made specially for y8 heads on z6 blocks, so in other words that would work on an a6 as well according to the information posted here. Just a heads up so you guys don't have to order a single stud anymore. __________________ Adam 2003 Tarmac Black Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 2009 Yamaha VX110 Waverunner

06-23-2007, 11:13 AM	#24
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Clemson, South Carolina! Posts: 9,233	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA nice, ARP is awesome __________________ One day you will see me in a fly lamborghini On my way to the beach picking up girls in bikinis I’m a hip-hop star and yo I’m bound to go far And all the girlies jump right on it...... When you drive a dope car http://people.clemson.edu/~ABense

07-01-2007, 11:38 AM	#25
xbarspnx Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA Posts: 2	Re: d16z6 head onto a d16y7/d16y5/d16y8 block OR d16y8 head on a d15b7/d16z6 block HEAD BOLTS EXPLA I just recently had a D16Y5 motor in my 99 hatchback, my D16y7 bit the dust. I was wondering if a D16Y8 SOHC VTEC head will fit on a D16Y5 block. Thanks

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