Mario Locatelli

In the pic is my timing belt area.
This is a 95 Accord F22B SOHC 4cyl

In the pic you see the one "small wheel" I guess you could call it that the belt goes around.. The car was leaking oil real bad so we pulled the timing belt cover off to see that the metal ring (maybe a gasket type) was no longer in the hole but was out floating on the shaft. I pushed it back in. Havent restarted the car.
Question, what is that called?
Is pushing the bearing back in ok or does it need to be replaced?
Is it necessary to rekove the tensioner on the timing belt?

Thank u for any help

Faraz123

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that's the balance shaft seal and Honda issued a recall for that as it was prone to popping out and spewing oil all over the place. Tbh it's a miracle your car is a still alive. You can get a balance shaft seal retainer kit for like $5 online. It's just a new seal with a ring of metal that bolts in around the seal to keep it in place and I don't see it installed in the above pic. Change the seal and install the retainer and you should be fine.

EDIT: Also, the seal isn't flush, you need to push that sucker in all the way, I think Honda dealers use a special tool to push it in all the way, you could maybe use an axle socket or something like that to get it in all the way but be careful not to damage the seal.

holmesnmanny

Faraz is 100% correct

94 accord typeR

so the balance shaft seal is known to pop out and has a special add-on to hold them in place. so if mine is not leaking then do i worry about this? should i get one to prevent the seal popping out? even if mine has not popped out yet? im just planning a timing belt/water pump and already have the cam and crank seals should i add these too? it is likely to just "pop" out? is this a F22B2 issue? so many questions i ve never heard of this

holmesnmanny

This was a known issue and was a recall.

Just go a Honda dealer and get the front balance shaft retainer kit. It will have the retainer, bolt, and seal.

accordturb96

Newer motors have it corrected I believe. When I did the balance shaft delete kit I noticed some brackets that bolt in where those two bolts above it are held. But I could be wrong. Alot of yamahas have brackets that hold the seals in as well. Interesting tho

Faraz123

Absolutely, it's a $5 fix that can protect your engine. There aren't too many accords still running that haven't had the shaft seal retainer installed. It's an easy fix if you already have everything open and definitely worth it.

94 accord typeR

just did some searching and found this pic

who knows i might already have one

accordturb96

Its always the cheap parts that get you. Glad I did the BS delete when I built mine. I dont recall seeing that on either of my 96 motors

accordturb96

Nvm found it on my other motor.same exact thing you posted.

Mario Locatelli

Thank u guys. Got the part.
Next question.
Should I replace the seal too?
Can I try running it with the cover off and see if it leaks still?

accordturb96

If you're pulling the shaft out yes. Otherwise no bc you wont be able to get the new seal over the end unless you can remove the pulley wheel. It should be fine if the seal looks good and the plate is installed. Use your discretion.

holmesnmanny

You put something inside the hole in the shaft to hold it. Then you can remove the pulley. Then tap the new seal in. Then hold the shaft again and put the pulley back on.

Mario Locatelli

Tried just putting it back in and didnt seem to work. I get a drip about every 3 seconds from the corner of the timing belt cover (which by the way took longer to put back on than any other part I took off. Dumb cover). So tomorrow gonna tear it all down again but im gonna buy a new seal.
Do I have to release the tensioner to get the timing belt off?

holmesnmanny

All you do is you slightly loosen the tensioner bolt, push the tensioner to release the tension and gently tighten it. Then just slide the belts off.

Faraz123

Yeah the lower timing cover is a bitch to get back on. That's why whenever I tear apart all that stuff I replace the seals, they're cheap straight from the dealer and do a real important job protecting your engine.

When you take the belt off do what manny said and just double check and make some timing marks if you have to to make sure the timing is fine when you put the belt back on.

Lost Again

You might also help yourself and make a mark with a sharpie on the belt to the gears. That way you can line the belt back to the gear without any worries.

Then I have to ask - you are there. When was the last time the timing/balance belts, water pump were replaced?