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Re: What? They don’t make great Hondas any more?…What about the Fit?
Man, what a well timed thread. I need a new car and I've been waffling between something like a fiesta ST or saving the money up front and buying a Fit, especially since I'm driving nearly 40 miles a day.
Are those Ground Control coilovers in the picture you posted? They have them listed on their website but it it's clear what year/generations they work with. When I was active on here way back in the day, the standard answer to "What suspension should I get?" was GC/Koni Yellows. Now it seems like yellows aren't made for these cars and I'm all out of sorts lol
Re: What? They don’t make great Hondas any more?…What about the Fit?
Originally Posted by civichb20
I haven't been here in a while but I always love your posts, I am on my second Fit GD3 and still loving it I had a HKS turbo charger on it and it was blast to drive but it blew so next is a K20 or K24 Hey quick question what suspension set up do you recommend? I want to do the Bilstein but they don't make it for the first generation I bet I can configure something?
Charles, who has a track prep CRX in the garage but the Honda Fit is to fun to drive and lot more spacious and probably safer as I am 250 lbs and 6'1"
Hey Charles...
I roughly measured my GE8 Bilsteins - see pics.
Scott, who got to thinking about camber adjustment on these type Honda struts...the steering rotation is taken by the body rotating about the shaft (NOT by the top bearing) and so the strut axis would (I don't know if it actually does) intersect the center of the lower ball joint to minimize additional load (and friction) on the struts internal bushings...eccentric bolts misalign the strut axis...such additional forces are small in comparison to braking and cornering loads so it's not worth fretting about...
Re: What? They don’t make great Hondas any more?…What about the Fit?
good info.
Why wouldn't/couldn't you just fit a spherical tophat on the setup if your top hat is solidly mounted to your shaft and you're worried about twisting the shaft inside of the cylinder in which it is protruding?
Re: What? They don’t make great Hondas any more?…What about the Fit?
Originally Posted by Dilbones
good info.
Why wouldn't/couldn't you just fit a spherical tophat on the setup if your top hat is solidly mounted to your shaft and you're worried about twisting the shaft inside of the cylinder in which it is protruding?
Moar camberz
Not so fast...think about how the top of the strut is mounted in the tower...see how it's amazingly simple/cheap...the tower is just a cone with a hole in the top, sandwiched between Parts 13 & 14...to run a single spherical top mount you'd have to devise another way of securing it to the tower - most likely by chopping it down and welding on a plate with camber slots - fine on a ground up race build but not so great for most everybody else and a pain in either case inasmuch as they're buried back under the cowl and so hard to get to.
If you are struggling to understand how this strut mount works, keep in mind that the main purpose of the stock top bearing is to allow the spring to rotate with the body when turning and not to articulate the top mount. Angular displacement of the shaft is handled by compliance in Parts 13 & 14. It's Great design - so much more cost efficient than what I think of as a typical strut top mount.
Scott, who has to keep reminding himself of what the Fit's original design purpose is...it just so happens that Honda makes that kind of car with the kind of magic that appeals to people who love to drive...
Re: What? They don’t make great Hondas any more?…What about the Fit?
Originally Posted by kristo
Originally Posted by RR98ITR
...even if they made those exact same cars again you might no longer be interested in buying one of them either...
Why's that? Rigidity and safety concerns?
Nah, just referring to the effects of the passage of time on people...some of whom now have things like GTR's, GT3's, etc. Other's are piloting mini-vans. Others, younger, aren't interested in cars at all.
Scott, who is clinically arrested and is highly unlikely to acquire "moar"...if anything I'm all crazy over "less"..."Honda Beat Get Out of My Head!!!!!!!"...
Re: What? They don’t make great Hondas any more?…What about the Fit?
Originally Posted by RR98ITR
Hey Charles...
I roughly measured my GE8 Bilsteins - see pics.
Scott, who got to thinking about camber adjustment on these type Honda struts...the steering rotation is taken by the body rotating about the shaft (NOT by the top bearing) and so the strut axis would (I don't know if it actually does) intersect the center of the lower ball joint to minimize additional load (and friction) on the struts internal bushings...eccentric bolts misalign the strut axis...such additional forces are small in comparison to braking and cornering loads so it's not worth fretting about...
Hey Scott sorry for the delay I am on it let me take some measurements this week and I know I got the stock suspension out that I can measure. Right now I am on Megan Suspension, sorry about that I bought it like that and it runs like crap lol. I would love to upgrade to a setup like this hang tight and sorry again.
Charles, who loves his Honda's but needs to go racing before it is to late and life literally consumes him.
Re: What? They don’t make great Hondas any more?…What about the Fit?
Originally Posted by civichb20
Hey Scott sorry for the delay I am on it let me take some measurements this week and I know I got the stock suspension out that I can measure. Right now I am on Megan Suspension, sorry about that I bought it like that and it runs like crap lol. I would love to upgrade to a setup like this hang tight and sorry again.
Charles, who loves his Honda's but needs to go racing before it is to late and life literally consumes him.
No Worries Charles...it's winter and if you can believe it I actually slow down in the winter.
Scott, who too is running out of time as life consumes him...I wouldn't mind so much but it hurts...
10-29-2016, 10:44 AM
Re: What? They don’t make great Hondas any more?…What about the Fit?
Hey quick question what suspension set up do you recommend? I want to do the Bilstein but they don't make it for the first generation I bet I can configure something?
