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Old 11-30-2012, 09:19 AM
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Default Opinions on dd/track/autox tires

Have been researching a good all around tire for next year. I am not worried about being overly competitive, I have a lot of relearning to do. Just started autox again this year after a 7yr hiatus. But need to be able to drive to the events on the tires. No more than hour each way for autox or track events. I am considering (205/50/15):

kuhmo xs
RA1
RIR
R888
RE11
ADO8

I am back and forth between the xs, r888 and AD08's. Just looking for some personal experience on some of these tires.

Oh, the car is a '00 hatch.

Thanks!
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i heard RE11 are the **** for all around.
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I would aslo make sure which class you will be in since some won't let you use R comp tires. But that also depends on the track event and so on....

But I would get RE-11's or RA1's
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can't go wrong with the r1r. r888 is a r comp, so like teg said, make sure it's okay.

have you look into the star specs? the new ones are coming out soon.
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i love r888s but they give their lives in the turns...
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On the other hand, I've been told by the serious race crowd that the only people that run 888's are the ones that have to by the rules or those that get them for free.

I actually have a lot of laps on them in a Miata that has just a basic sporty suspension, they seem OK, but don't really like to be pushed too hard.

I don't think they make them in 15", but I have a set of the BFG KDW on my M3 daily driver. They do pretty well on the street and hold up like iron on the track. Some driving schools run them on their cars.
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Originally Posted by ScottBell
On the other hand, I've been told by the serious race crowd that the only people that run 888's are the ones that have to by the rules or those that get them for free.

I actually have a lot of laps on them in a Miata that has just a basic sporty suspension, they seem OK, but don't really like to be pushed too hard.

I don't think they make them in 15", but I have a set of the BFG KDW on my M3 daily driver. They do pretty well on the street and hold up like iron on the track. Some driving schools run them on their cars.
Have you tried the NT01's?
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What about the Star Specs, the new one coming out looks great too!
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Good all arounder are the Hankook RS3s. Best street tire i know of that can compete with r comps.
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Originally Posted by 20CiviC02Si
Good all arounder are the Hankook RS3s. Best street tire i know of that can compete with r comps.
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RS3's are what I would run if I could. Many guys I know have done testing with them and they now are classified in thier own catagory where I run. Top notch tire.
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Does anyone run the XS?
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Does anyone run the XS?
Nope. I believe GRM did testing last year or year before and they were one of the slowest tires. Overheated too quickly.
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XS are good for auto-x only. They don't hold well with prolonged heat cycles that you'd see during lapping.
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Originally Posted by CivicSiRacer
Nope. I believe GRM did testing last year or year before and they were one of the slowest tires. Overheated too quickly.
In this GRM test they were one of the fastest, granted its a few yrs old.
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/top-tires/

But I guess there's a good reason no one runs them...
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Originally Posted by iwannarace
In this GRM test they were one of the fastest, granted its a few yrs old.
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/top-tires/

But I guess there's a good reason no one runs them...
Yeah the tire companies are really competing head to head to take over the competitive street tire market. Thanks to the higher interest in auto-x and hpde events. With this they keep trying to find faster compounds and tread patterns each year.

Hankook hit the nail on the head with the RS3 this year! Fast and didn't give up too much on street drive-ability and wet traction.
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I run in SM when I autox. I would run the RS3 but don't think my wheels are enough for the only size they have in 15". They would be going a set of rota subzeros, not ready to put money into a better set of wheels yet. I will take a closer look at the RE-11's and RA1. The R888 were a second choice.
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R888 and RA1 are expensive tires and they'll wear down too fast on the street.
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Default Re: Opinions on dd/track/autox tires

Originally Posted by Robin6
Have you tried the NT01's?

No, but that is the next tire that is going on the beater Meotter.


Good all arounder are the Hankook RS3s. Best street tire i know of that can compete with r comps.
I had a student with these on his car a couple of weeks ago. I was highly impressed from a passenger perspective.
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I'm a big fan of the Dunlop StarSpecs, though they are available in 205/50-15 and not the 225/45-15 that the Hankook RS3's are.. I always found the StarSpecs to perform well in autox, handle the heat at the track, wear very well and last a long time, and handle water/rain pretty well. A lot of these max performance street tires are scary in the wet. I don't know what's up with the new StarSpecs people are talking about, but hopefully they're at least as good as the old ones.
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Default Re: Opinions on dd/track/autox tires

Those are completely different type of tires.

These are DOT R-Compound.
RA1
R888


These are DOT street tires
kuhmo xs
RIR
RE11
ADO8
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Some guys in our local auto x group run the 195/50/15 r1r, they said this size gives them better times, I'm getting theses for next year income tax,
I'm running Dunlop dz101, daily n auto x, 195/50, they feel good I'm sure the star spec r a tad bit better
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i have run both r1rs and r888s in 195/50r15. the 888s have a lot more sidewall roll but can hold a line a lot better. for me it was actually a problem. i like having a little oversteer.

i have tried the re11s and i loved them. next set of tires i get will be those
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Wait for the Z2
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Default Re: Opinions on dd/track/autox tires

RE11s are great all around tires but the Hankook RS3s can match up to the RE11s performance but cost less.


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