Freshdot

Received these today, purchased used with no installation manual.

Can't for the life of me figure out how these are to be installed. I know they go in from the bottom of the knuckle and that's about all I know.

Bently_Coop

What car is it?

Freshdot

92/95 civic.

ninjacowtipper

thread the tie rod on the inner tie rod, then drop the tapered rod through the knuckle from the top. push the outer tie rod up to the knuckle with the tapered rod going through the tie rod end, thread the nut on. get an alignment and enjoy your loads of bumpsteer!

i put these on and aligned my car then immediately purchased some sankei 555 tie rod ends. it felt like driving on ice. if anyone has info on how to make them actually work that would be great.

shane(showtime)

iTrader: (1)

Drive car and remove.... I drove a car with them also and all I can say is sketchy.... THey must be designed for very very low cars or maybe relocated steering racks.....

flip_nl

I would sell it.

IMO, OEM tie-rod or propper shimmed tie-rod set-up (measure with gauge).

chargeR

As everyone has said above, take those hard race tie rod ends and place them in the nearest garbage bin. I've measured the bump steer on EF and DC2 with the standard suspension arms, and it showed that relocating the outer pivot downward by the amount the Hard Race parts do will make the bump steer massively bad. For a lowered car typically you will want to raise the outer end of the tie rod slightly to regain approximately standard bump steer behaviour.

EF curve shape, zero on Y axis is approximately 45 lower than standard ride height.


A colleague of mine and I designed and made our own tie rod end kit:

ninjacowtipper

this is what we need! what did you use for the tapered rod that goes through the knuckle? i've been looking for something that will allow me to mount those "super" tie rod ends on top of the knuckle and maybe even be height adjustable by adding washers. i've seen this once before on a mid-engined integra. raising the tie rod end let the builder of that car run more caster without increasing bump steer.

chargeR

What you want is exactly what we've made , a tapered stub that bolts straight into the steering arm of the knuckle like the standard taper on the tie rod end and then you can add the spacers above and below the rod end to adjust the height. We're currently still testing them on our personal cars (EF and DC2) but they'll be available for sale soon hopefully.