BLKTurboSI00

Has anybody considered swapping into an EK/EG the Honda I-DTEC 2.2L Diesel engine. I've been thinking about this swap for some time now, especialy since gas prices are now $4.00 and probably will go even higher.

The I-DTEC engine could possibly be the swap of the future, in europe this engine gets 60+ mpg, plus this engine is turbocharged and makes 350 ft-lbs of torque.

civdx94

I think about the swap all the time.. The problems and cost associated with getting a clip here is the major downfall in my opinion. I live in an area with no smog testing whatsoever so the US diesel regulations are not a factor. However i have yet to find a person to supply and ship a clip. Your looking at 2-3k for just a container to get it over here and probably double that for a clip considering how new they are. A more reasonable option would be to go with a GM ecotec diesel that come in a variation of 1,1.3,1.7, and 2.2 with varying power levels and excellent fuel economy but the problem still remains with getting it here.
On top of all this there is going to be little to no savings on fuel if your planning on running regular diesel. The true savings would be running b100 or SVO which can be devastating to direct injection diesel pumps. For us unlucky americans the most cost effective route is probably buying an old indirect injection vw and swapping it in a crx or just try to aero mod the hell out of a VW

BLKTurboSI00

I still think that the Honda I-DTEC 2.2L Diesel engine would be well worth the trouble. These engines are very abundant in Europe as they are available in the Civic, Accord, CRV, FRV Honda platforms to name a few. Also, since its a honda engine it probably would be almost a direct bolt in with some minor mount fabrication etc. Plus the engine is turbocharged so it has a lot of upgrade potential to make decent power while getting super MPG. Once a decent auto recyler is located who has access to these clips it should be a done deal, provided one can foot the bill. It won't be cheap but it will be well worth it. But K20A swaps aren't cheap either. So now let's consider the Pros: Honda reliability, Honda parts, great fuel economy and decent power.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civdx94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I think about the swap all the time.. The problems and cost associated with getting a clip here is the major downfall in my opinion. I live in an area with no smog testing whatsoever so the US diesel regulations are not a factor. However i have yet to find a person to supply and ship a clip. Your looking at 2-3k for just a container to get it over here and probably double that for a clip considering how new they are. A more reasonable option would be to go with a GM ecotec diesel that come in a variation of 1,1.3,1.7, and 2.2 with varying power levels and excellent fuel economy but the problem still remains with getting it here.
On top of all this there is going to be little to no savings on fuel if your planning on running regular diesel. The true savings would be running b100 or SVO which can be devastating to direct injection diesel pumps. For us unlucky americans the most cost effective route is probably buying an old indirect injection vw and swapping it in a crx or just try to aero mod the hell out of a VW</TD></TR></TABLE>

civdx94

It comes down to personal preference for the most part. I find spending 9k+ on a diesel swap with little to know form of replacement parts(yet) a bit steep. Plus your dropping it into a 12+ year old chassis... You better intend of driving it for a while. The fact you'll be able to buy this engine package buy the end of the year may help things a little.

If all you want is decent power and fuel economy buy a cx hatch and drop in a y5 swap with the correct computer. Or just a Vx for that matter. Heck my stock cx with almost 180k averages 44mpg. I'd rather spend the 9k importing a series one elise into the states and the other $1 per gallon saved on gas vs diesel towards the k20 swap to go into it.

fistopher

yeah, it would be cool, but not very cost effective. I love the idea though.

turbopolluter

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Gator417

I really like diesel engines & think they are going to replace a large segment of gas engines very quickly in the US. It would be great to do this in a Honda too. Not sure what it would cost, but you would make up the extra cost of this swap before too long with the extra economy.
As for power; sorry kids, but the Y5 doesn't make "decent power". Its enough to keep from getting run over, but that's it. Its nothing close to the power of a diesel in such a small car. It won't win any races, unless you're racing a D series or similar.
As for mileage; the Y5 won't even come close to what you woud get with a modern diesel. Not a 1/4 miler or anything like that, but that torque makes it really easy to drive and a lot more fun in town.
Gator

Now almost a year later I have changed how I feel about the Y5. I put one in my '99 sedan & am really impressed with the performance. Mine has Y8 intake & exhaust manifolds, a Z6 throttle body with a stock P28. It runs great and has good, smooth, usable low & midrange power. My last check was 32mpg whilst going 80 with the ac on. Not even close to this 44mpg I keep reading about, but I'm very pleased with it.