Francesco

Well Leo picked up his s2000 from the body shop today after 2.5 months of waiting. Here is the end result. I snaped some quick pictures while he was here. When he gets home he will post the before thread. The car drives fine, but there are some minor imperfections in the body.

Francesco

Original thread...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1523232

Mr. Projekt

There will always be imperfections. Once hit, it will never be the same.

ITRbroham

Did they repaint the whole car?

If not, SBM paint will definitely show an imperfect paint match in certain types of light. Believe me, I know. Not saying Leo's S2K wasn't matched well, but just a word of caution.


Modified by ITRbroham at 9:00 PM 5/2/2006

LAS2K

after being rear ended my suzuka wasn't paint matched rear bumper was darker in certain light.

Ya@inlinePRO

glad he got it back though.

Francesco

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100% true, never the same.

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me too

papa5murf

now thats a smart dude.. he got a suzuka...

Newkdog

Looks good!

Nishant

how the S drive?

mz3bo

Is it me or does the car seem to be lower on the drive side from a rear view. We can see that flooring is flat, but the car seem lower...

JDM knowledge

iTrader: (1)

good to see it back but me personally i would sell it a buy another. That is just me.

pwrofdrm

Looks like a lot of damage...I'm suprised they opted to fix it to be honest with you.

Tell all, where was the work done? To me, anything less than stock is unacceptable when it comes to bodywork...

JDM knowledge

iTrader: (1)

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Tell all, where was the work done? To me, anything less than stock is unacceptable when it comes to bodywork...</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn i second that

Nishant

I'm willing to bet that if he had it towed to a honda/acura dealership to have it fixed. They would have told insurance we can't fix it to like new or possibly, we don't want to even try to fix it.

My friend got rearended and he had an adjuster come to his house. He wrote him a 8k+ check. He then took it to honda to get it repaired. Honda said it would be about 10k and that it wouldn't be like new. They asked him why insurance didn't total it.

Stolen R

Real quick.

Thanks for the comments guys. Right now i'm absolutely livid. I just got the total for the repairs to the car. The original estimate was under $13,000. Keep in mind that the car still isn't perfect and is going back to the shop next week. So far, Allsate has spent $19,466.37 to fix the S. by the time all is said and done, they are going to have spent at least $21k. Why in the world would you spend almost $20k to fix a car that I spent $23 on? Somebody really dropped the ball or was on the take for this job. Now i'm in a car that half of it was replaced, will never be close to perfect and it's going to be hard to sell. Given, it looks good and drives good, but it's just the point. I'm going to be consulting with a lawyer this week. I feel like I really got screwed. This would have been so much easier if allstate just gave me what I paid for it. They tried to be slick and appraise the car for $28k. Hopefully things will work out for me.

Thanks again for all the input over the past 3 months....

Francesco

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Thanks for the comments guys. Right now i'm absolutely livid. I just got the total for the repairs to the car. The original estimate was under $13,000. Keep in mind that the car still isn't perfect and is going back to the shop next week. So far, Allsate has spent $19,466.37 to fix the S. by the time all is said and done, they are going to have spent at least $21k. Why in the world would you spend almost $20k to fix a car that I spent $23 on? Somebody really dropped the ball or was on the take for this job. Now i'm in a car that half of it was replaced, will never be close to perfect and it's going to be hard to sell. Given, it looks good and drives good, but it's just the point. I'm going to be consulting with a lawyer this week. I feel like I really got screwed. This would have been so much easier if allstate just gave me what I paid for it. They tried to be slick and appraise the car for $28k. Hopefully things will work out for me.

Thanks again for all the input over the past 3 months....


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wow. its amazing how people just wan't to make money.

good job Leo, get that lawyer and hopefully you will be in a new s2000 or out of this one

RexShop

Dang, that's crazy.. stupid insurance company..

Looks good though..

aklucsarits

Wow! I cannot believe that they did not just total it. Sounds like typical Allstate though. I had a Honda stolen from me that was worth about $14,000. Car was found a few days later by police with just minor cosmetic damage and a few parts missing. Didn't look bad at all, but the costs and labor to restore a theft recovery can be extensive. Allstate estimated ~$9,000 for repairs. $15,000 and 90 days later, the car was restored to close to new. I sold it for $13,500 a few weeks later.

Andrew

apSquidFace

wow looks much better haha needless to say

Stolen R

Since you guys all know about the history of this car. What is it reasonably worth? I'd never try to pass it off to someone as "never in an accident".

Francesco

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Well 19,466.37 is more than 75% of the 23,000$ that you paid.

75% of 23,000$ is 17,250.00$ = THE CAR SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALED

Get the lawyer and let them worry about the car man. You got F'd since they told you the repair should be 13,000.00. this is on them now and your getting out of this situation.

evil vapor

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Leo S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Real quick.

Thanks for the comments guys. Right now i'm absolutely livid. I just got the total for the repairs to the car. The original estimate was under $13,000. Keep in mind that the car still isn't perfect and is going back to the shop next week. So far, Allsate has spent $19,466.37 to fix the S. by the time all is said and done, they are going to have spent at least $21k. Why in the world would you spend almost $20k to fix a car that I spent $23 on? Somebody really dropped the ball or was on the take for this job. Now i'm in a car that half of it was replaced, will never be close to perfect and it's going to be hard to sell. Given, it looks good and drives good, but it's just the point. I'm going to be consulting with a lawyer this week. I feel like I really got screwed. This would have been so much easier if allstate just gave me what I paid for it. They tried to be slick and appraise the car for $28k. Hopefully things will work out for me.

Thanks again for all the input over the past 3 months....


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It appears the body shop took advantage of the situation. They are in the business of making money and take advantage of loop holes. Usually the insurance company and customer get screwed.

Since body shops are in the business of making money, they need to take jobs even if that means underestimating a repair that is a borderline total. They know that supplemental requests for repairs can be submitted after the initial estimate is performed, which has a huge impact on the totalling of a car. This is totally legal. It's a loophole in the system.

You're best bet was to find a body shop that was willing to sympathize with you that the car would never be the same after the repairs and ultimately you would want a new car. That's 100% reasonable. Under California law, you can get as many estimates as you want and you have the right to get the car repaired at any body shop of your choice.

You can argue that the body shop lowballed the estimate to begin repairing it, but if you expressed you wanted the car repaired and had a love for it that it had to be repaired, any body shop will repair a car that appears to be tweaked badly.

However, if you expressed from the start that the car was damaged beyond repair to it's original condition before getting the estimate performed, that might've factored into the cost of repair and ultimately would've resulted in a high estimate to total the car. Most body shops don't want to deal with an **** customer that will keep coming back, they'll write something off to prevent headaches or hassles.

civic dx

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It appears the body shop took advantage of the situation. They are in the business of making money and take advantage of loop holes. Usually the insurance company and customer get screwed.

Since body shops are in the business of making money, they need to take jobs even if that means underestimating a repair that is a borderline total. They know that supplemental requests for repairs can be submitted after the initial estimate is performed, which has a huge impact on the totalling of a car. This is totally legal. It's a loophole in the system.

You're best bet was to find a body shop that was willing to sympathize with you that the car would never be the same after the repairs and ultimately you would want a new car. That's 100% reasonable. Under California law, you can get as many estimates as you want and you have the right to get the car repaired at any body shop of your choice.

You can argue that the body shop lowballed the estimate to begin repairing it, but if you expressed you wanted the car repaired and had a love for it that it had to be repaired, any body shop will repair a car that appears to be tweaked badly.

However, if you expressed from the start that the car was damaged beyond repair to it's original condition before getting the estimate performed, that might've factored into the cost of repair and ultimately would've resulted in a high estimate to total the car. Most body shops don't want to deal with an **** customer that will keep coming back, they'll write something off to prevent headaches or hassles. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually you’re totally wrong. Paying for 19k of damage is cheaper to your insurance than paying for the + 23k value of the whole car. Every business is in the business of making money, that’s how you put food on your table. Insurance companies send adjusters out to do the original estament on your car. 90% of the time they don’t know what they are looking at because they have never fixed a wreaked car themselves. That’s why the original estament is always lower than the actual cost of repair. Body shops have to get paid for the extra cost of repair so that’s why there are supplements, it’s not a loophole. You wouldn’t do work your not getting paid to do would you? Insurance adjusters are trained to put only the things on the original estament that they can see from the outside. If you take your car into a body shop that’s wreaked that hard and there is no supplement on it than your car just got butchered.

nuttybumpo

wow owned.....
BS