SOT eaton style S2000 supercharger kit
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SOT eaton style S2000 supercharger kit
what's up guys, my buddy picked up the SOT (Stage One Tuning) positive displacement supercharger kit, it's only the 10th one sold so far. it's a pretty cool kit, the charger sound is pretty awesome but out of boost it sounds 100% all-motor, nice and sleeper like
here's some picts and video, it's on 7psi right now, the timing is really conservative so we could drive it around until it gets dyno'd which will be tomorrow :D I'm guessing in these vids the power is down about 30whp from where it'll be tomorrow after tuning, that's how conservative the timing is right now. I'll post up the dyno on here and some more videos once it's tuned.
http://h22civic.com/videos/HDRacing/charger%20whine.wmv
http://h22civic.com/videos/S2000/s2k%20haulin%20ass.wmv
here's some picts and video, it's on 7psi right now, the timing is really conservative so we could drive it around until it gets dyno'd which will be tomorrow :D I'm guessing in these vids the power is down about 30whp from where it'll be tomorrow after tuning, that's how conservative the timing is right now. I'll post up the dyno on here and some more videos once it's tuned.
http://h22civic.com/videos/HDRacing/charger%20whine.wmv
http://h22civic.com/videos/S2000/s2k%20haulin%20ass.wmv
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it's my buddy anthony's car, between the two of us we put the kit on earlier this week. we've done all the work on the car including the suspension, clutch, fuel, and engine management stuff.
the kit was right around $5,000 if I remember right. that's right inline with all the other turbo / supercharged and intercooled kits. we'll actually be the first ones (from what I've heard) to tune this kit on a AEM EMS, the kit is typically sold with Greddy E-Manage. hopefully we get some nice solid numbers from the kit when we go to the dyno.
anthony also got a different supercharger outlet part that flows a little more, we'll dyno the car with and without that part to see the difference in power. it's still a beta kit but right now it doesn't come with the larger outlet piece.
the kit was right around $5,000 if I remember right. that's right inline with all the other turbo / supercharged and intercooled kits. we'll actually be the first ones (from what I've heard) to tune this kit on a AEM EMS, the kit is typically sold with Greddy E-Manage. hopefully we get some nice solid numbers from the kit when we go to the dyno.
anthony also got a different supercharger outlet part that flows a little more, we'll dyno the car with and without that part to see the difference in power. it's still a beta kit but right now it doesn't come with the larger outlet piece.
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the kit looks awesome, i remember talking to the guy with the yellow ap2 that had it down at IA about it. i wonder if there would be any power gain/loss if you used an air-to-air intercooler as opposed to running the water-to-air
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yeah the yellow one from Static X Motorsports is the sole US distributor, I haven't talked to him a lot but he's been very helpfull.
at first I thought that an air to air would be cooler (no pun intended), it would give you a nice front mount plus simplify things by not needing the water pump and heat exchanger. but I think the catch is that the throttle body is all the way over by the filter behind the charger by the firewall. so as it is now you have all the air in the intake manifold, piping, intercooler, and supercharger that you have to fill with air to get boost. and then at part throttle all that volume of air has to go into vacuum which it kinda seems like there's a tiny delay compared to all motor with the throttle body on the intake manifold. the only place this seems to be annoying is when starting the rpms climb a little too far then calm down to normal. I think it's all that volume of air getting sucked down to vacuum.
now if the car had all the extra volume of intercooler piping going to a front mount, plus the front mount itself, with all that extra volume I think it would lose drivability and throttle response. since a turbo setup doesn't move the throttle body you only get that little lag in building boost but part throttle isn't effected at all.
that's just my guess but it seems to make sense. my JRSC setup on my CRX keeps the stock location on the throttle body and the intake manifold is the intercooler, I think this is ideal, because you're not moving the throttle body, this is also how my buddy's Kenne Bell supercharger was set up on his mustang, but it's not an option on the S2000, maybe if it stuck out of the hood hot rod style
at first I thought that an air to air would be cooler (no pun intended), it would give you a nice front mount plus simplify things by not needing the water pump and heat exchanger. but I think the catch is that the throttle body is all the way over by the filter behind the charger by the firewall. so as it is now you have all the air in the intake manifold, piping, intercooler, and supercharger that you have to fill with air to get boost. and then at part throttle all that volume of air has to go into vacuum which it kinda seems like there's a tiny delay compared to all motor with the throttle body on the intake manifold. the only place this seems to be annoying is when starting the rpms climb a little too far then calm down to normal. I think it's all that volume of air getting sucked down to vacuum.
now if the car had all the extra volume of intercooler piping going to a front mount, plus the front mount itself, with all that extra volume I think it would lose drivability and throttle response. since a turbo setup doesn't move the throttle body you only get that little lag in building boost but part throttle isn't effected at all.
that's just my guess but it seems to make sense. my JRSC setup on my CRX keeps the stock location on the throttle body and the intake manifold is the intercooler, I think this is ideal, because you're not moving the throttle body, this is also how my buddy's Kenne Bell supercharger was set up on his mustang, but it's not an option on the S2000, maybe if it stuck out of the hood hot rod style
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It kind of looks like what you'e expect under the hood of a Mitsubishi Fuso with turbo but I think that it's cosmetics may be easily improved. I'd like to show off the nice welds on the water to air heat exchanger but a powdercoat in black might look okay. The front mount cooler really does need a facelift. Wrong......it needs to be replaced with somthing else.
On the other hand, nobody cares how good you look when you break records!!!!!
On the other hand, nobody cares how good you look when you break records!!!!!
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Which size Eaton blower does it use? I assume the M62?
Cool to see another supercharged option I guess but I don't really see the point unless it's a bigger blower.
Cool to see another supercharged option I guess but I don't really see the point unless it's a bigger blower.
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yeah M62 blower, don't think anything bigger would fit. and the kit would look cleaner with the intercooler all black, maybe they'll change that later. dyno'd today, 308whp @ 7psi. I'll post of the dyno video once it's online, it screams compared to some other guys the stock exhaust seems to be holding it back about 10-15whp so he'll probably change that at some point.
the bigger boost pullies will be on the way soon, gotta get more power than this still about 100whp over stock isn't that bad
the bigger boost pullies will be on the way soon, gotta get more power than this still about 100whp over stock isn't that bad
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I dont undersatnd why this kit is the way it is. Why wouldnt they just have it replace the intake manifold? like the jackson racing superchargeres made for the k and b series? I dont think I would like my super charger mounted above the header. Im not a big boost guy never have been never will be. But if a company came out with a roots type sc that mounts right up to the head on the intake side I would be all over it.
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I dont undersatnd why this kit is the way it is. Why wouldnt they just have it replace the intake manifold? like the jackson racing superchargeres made for the k and b series? I dont think I would like my super charger mounted above the header. Im not a big boost guy never have been never will be. But if a company came out with a roots type sc that mounts right up to the head on the intake side I would be all over it.
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I agree ^^^ it should replace the intake mani. i was all sorts of excited when i saw the thread but was disappointed to see this.
if they build it like a jrsc kit im in 1000 %
if they build it like a jrsc kit im in 1000 %
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I would think there would be tons of room if the intake manifold was removed. I geuss well have to wait for someone to develope one. If I had time and money I would deff look into making one.
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the starter and alternator are in the way on the intake side, I really doubt there's enough room without needing to modify the hood, it would be cool though
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Jrsc's dont run coolers and if you would like lht builds custom ones into the mani and uses the same space as the stock jrsc mani...
Comptech doesnt run a cooler on therensx s/c either under 8psi your fine with out a cooler
Comptech doesnt run a cooler on therensx s/c either under 8psi your fine with out a cooler
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Look under the hood of a stock s2000, its not like they are gonna do a sweet *** pointless wire tuck... The Full race kit relocates the battery in the same place along with a couple other turbo kits.
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personally i think it looks tacky...id spend a little more time and move it to the trunk...the battery is about the only thing that would fit perfectly back there anyway