S@nt0s

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boy i love seeing drunk post the day after... LOL

see guys its not a matter of saying yea i haev this or i have that....

because i know there are a lot of people who front on the game and will put "EVO" stickers on some slips or say their D2's are SSR's...

if you wanna play hardball dont bring a softball bat to the plate

AP1_RG

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S@nt0s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you wanna play hardball dont bring a softball bat to the plate</TD></TR></TABLE>

^^^ I agree..... Happy Friday everyone...




Question... are these SSR's? Whoever owns the car, if you want the pix taken out just lemme know...

JDM knowledge

iTrader: (1)

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u are very very ugly!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol. No im actually hot to trot lol.

S2KILLA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM knowledge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lol. No im actually hot to trot lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i hope u were just playin with taht comment, thats one of the red stripe commercials... lemme see if i can find it on youtube:

here we go that took 30 seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfGkhhm4vXw

- BSeRiouS -

Modified by OBSeRiouSo at 11:25 AM 12/11/2006

- BSeRiouS -

That is a real SW388. The color seems as if is not original though.
Just letting you guys know, since no one brought it up


EDIT: This is <U>NOT</U> a real SW388. I repeat. <U>NOT</U> a real SW388. Stupid computer at work fooled me.





Modified by OBSeRiouSo at 11:27 AM 12/11/2006

ninja 6

I would NOT get rotas on an S. Just doesn't make sense.

S2KILLA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OBSeRiouSo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That is a <U>real SW388</U>. The color seems as if is not original though.

Just letting you guys know, since no one brought it up </TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought they were...

Mr. Projekt

The incident with the guy on the freeway as I remember:

Del sol. The wheel was the Rota Mugen RNR-copy, I don't care for the name. Was doing 65-70 on the freeway. He recalls hitting NOTHING, and car pulls to the side suddenly into guardrail. I can't find that damn thread either, but it was in the Del sol forum and the "Hottest del sol" thread. When and how the wheel broke was not clear.

Off topic:

How come the wheel that Don showed had 2 sets of lug holes for 100/114.3



... while the set he is putting up for sale only has 1 set?



I'm confused... too much work = brain not right. I know these ^^^ are for reals... so it's back to the first picture/wheel. The first wheel also seems to be coated with brake dust, and the color under the finger smudge seems close to real. Any inputs?

tilt.

i believe those are nsx spec regamaster evo's, not sw388's.

my regamaster evo's did not have the extra holes, while the sw's i've seen do have the holes.

Mr. Projekt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tilt. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i believe those are nsx spec regamaster evo's, not sw388's.

my regamaster evo's did not have the extra holes, while the sw's i've seen do have the holes.


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Dammit that's right.

jbell

OMG PORSCHE MUST USE ROTAS!!!!!

Mr. Projekt

I think it's more of the design of the wheel than anything. There's also QC/QA to check product before it gets to the consumer. Somewhere along that line something f'd up.

On the other hand, doesn't Mugen's RNR stand for Race N Replace, because there isn't a set that lasts longer than 1 race season?

I know Mackin puts their wheels through an extensive testing process. They're also supplying Formula 1 with wheels now. Under Mackin falls... Advan, Rays/Volks, Gram Lights, even MF-10s IIRC. They also run ARC, Project Mu, Espelir, Takata.. and so on. Going down that list, I couldn't complain about any of their or their subsidiary's products. Call it peace of mind, that when I spend the little extra, I know I'm getting a quality product. I'm not saying that they won't fail, but they have a much lesser chance of doing so under normal use.

So what did that Porsche hit?

- BSeRiouS -

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Off topic:

How come the wheel that Don showed had 2 sets of lug holes for 100/114.3

I'm confused... too much work = brain not right. I know these ^^^ are for reals... so it's back to the first picture/wheel. The first wheel also seems to be coated with brake dust, and the color under the finger smudge seems close to real. Any inputs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

^^^Fuuuuk. Damn it. I just double checked this Black "SW388". My computer at work fukin blows. Its too damn dark and Its even set at the highest brightest the monitor can handle.

Im at home right now where I can actually see the detail of this wheel because of my bright monitor, and that my friend up there, the black one, IS NOT an authentic SW388. Reason, because at the end of the spoke of a Rota wheel (SlipStreams), they have what you would call the infamous "rota bend" which is very very noticeable. Compare it to my NSX Spec Rega EVO's where the end of my spoke has a tiny slight bend but flushes out to the lip.





Also in other detail, Desmond/Spoon Sports NEVER released a universal 5-Lug on the SW388. C'mon, what "Spoon Car" actually was competing with a 5x100 lug pattern hahaha.


Desmond Rega EVO's Patterns

15" Desmonds that are 4x100 do have extra holes but it is not set as a universal 4 lug pattern.



16" Desmonds that are 4x100 ONLY have 4 holes.



17" Desmonds that are 5X114 ONLY have 5 holes



and compare these wheels and spoke with eachoter:

Both 15"





Notice how the Rega EVO is more sleeker while the Rota is short and stubbier.

I can also tell what is authentic or not buy the lip of the wheel beacuse a REAL Desmond lip is nice and flat as opposed to a knock off that has a slight stepped lip to it.


Modified by OBSeRiouSo at 6:24 PM 12/8/2006

LAS2K

YES I WIN... haha just kidding . nice detective work there

Mr. Projekt

Don. I notice that now that you pointed it out, but I was curious to see why the wheel was bent and not cracked. Cast wheels tend to bend a LOT before cracking, while forged would bend a little then crack all over.

SilverDc2

i've seen forged rims bend, but it has to be one HUGE man make hole! the size of hawaii.

just the percentage of of forged rims are going to fail as likely as the cast.

- BSeRiouS -

you know what Dang, I really don't know?

When still looking at this picture, the Lip on that Black Knock off looks very Spoonish, but I KNOW its fake because of the universal 5 Lug.

Somethings telling me its not a Rota but a another knock off of the SW388.

But it has to be Rota because it is one the only company that makes a Universal 5 Lug "SW388".

Mr. Projekt

That's what I thought. Glad I guessed right for once.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverDc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've seen forged rims bend, but it has to be one HUGE man make hole! the size of hawaii.

just the percentage of of forged rims are going to fail as likely as the cast. </TD></TR></TABLE>

My point is that the Desmonds are forged and Rotas are cast. It seems like the damaged "Rota" was bent in manners common to cast wheels. Mechanical Physics FTW!

- BSeRiouS -

ohhh yes. hahaha!

Since were on the topic of broken wheels and Rota...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1832516

Its funny how a majority of all these wheels in this subforum are Rotas hahaha!

Mr. Projekt

And the first pic just happens to be a RNR copy.

tegsallgood

rotas are excellent wheels. i have hardcore autocross buddies that rag the **** out of rotas all day for a number of years, never any problems ever.. however i have a friend that has cracked 3 wheels on 2 different sets. mugen and volk wheels... in autocrosses.... he has since put rotas on his car that have lasted beautifully. not saying rotas any better quality then a forged 3 piece but wheels are wheels. its a functional piece and as they may not be 3 piece excellent they are extremely funcional and WAY more smart of an investment when your talking about dollars to use.

if you hate on rotas other then the fact that they are replicas and you dont belive in buying replicas, your an idiot

LAS2K

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegsallgood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if you hate on rotas other then the fact that they are replicas and you dont belive in buying replicas, your an idiot</TD></TR></TABLE>

to you too! cheap fools who don't understand all the hard work and time and research and testing goes into making these wheels.

Infinity_Racer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LAS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> to you too! cheap fools who don't understand all the hard work and time and research and testing goes into making these wheels. </TD></TR></TABLE>

to you too for criticizing people who'd rather not spend 2g's+ on wheels for there car. I think everyone one on here recognizes the r&d that goes into high end wheels, but that still doesn't mean everyone will have the money to go and buy a set. So does that mean we should all roll on the stock wheels forever until we can afford to buy brand names wheels? If that was the case, then whats the whole point of modifying the car to begin with if everyone's car looks the same?

Your whole argument on the wheels is that its better quality and people shouldnt be putting those wheels on an s2000 and thats fine. Thats your take on it. You got a great car at a young age but you dont need to act like an elitist. To belittle people because they cant afford wheels that YOU think should go on THEIR car is just rediculous.

Out of curiosity, have you ever owned a set of Rotas?

S@nt0s

Rota= KEYSTONE LIGHT
Companies that put up $ for R&D to quality wheels = Corona, Pacifico, heinekens etc....
yes you can still get faded off keystone Light and cheaper but you cant compare the 2 beers..