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Old 09-23-2003, 10:37 PM
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Like Topic says i need advise on what parts to use and that will work well with...here a list of the things i'am planing to get what should i change or replace or use any other company that might be better etc please some pro's with soem good Help
Info on the Car its a 1995 Accord 4 door with an JDM H22A motor and type S Tranny
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Arias Pistons 9:0 Compression (rings, wrist pins, locks)
ReSleeving hte blcok with Golden Eagle
Crower rods
Port Polish the head
AEM Cam Sprockets ? or use another
SuperTech Valves ? or use other brand ?
Eibach Valve Springs
Crower Retainers
Head Machining ( 3 angle valve job & seals)
ARP Head studs
Cosmatic Head Gasket
TURBO
Innovative Turbo 60-! T4 Duel Ball Bearing or should i go with an T3/t4 or T4 ?
Tubular Turbo maifold
Tial Wastegate ? or should i use another brand ?
Tial BlowOff Valve ? or should repalce with something else ?
XS Intercooler ? or use other brand ?
Apexi AVCR Boost Controller ? or replace with something else ?
FUEL
RC Engineering 720CC injectors
AEM Fuel Rail
SPARK
MSD Digital 6
MSD SS COIL
MSD Coil wire Kit
ECU
Hondata S200 System
P28 OBD 1 ECU ? or use other ECU like 93 civic DX ECu ?
Motec 3 bar Map sensor ? or use something else like 300ZX TT or Supra TT ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Showoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
AEM Cam Sprockets ? or use another

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Get a set with more than 3 adj. bolts. i"ve heard enough slippage issues with aem to stay away from them.
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what should i replace them with if i should use others ?
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try skunk2 or unorthodox
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by btlfed1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try skunk2 or unorthodox</TD></TR></TABLE>

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get the golden eagle cam gears. The adjustment on them is way more accurate than the skunk 2's or anyone for that matter, btw i own skunk 2 cam gears and would ditch them in a second for golden eagles.

as for the ECU get the p28, that is the cheapest one for the setup you plan on running and will work great

for the MAP sensor get a GM 3 bar, i believe they are much cheaper than motec or any of the others you mentioned
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would you recomend the golden eagle or Darton sleeves ?
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Arias Pistons 9:0 Compression (rings, wrist pins, locks)
- I'd personally get JE's or Endyn Rollerwaves
AEM Cam Sprockets ? or use another
- Like everyone said, get a diff brand
SuperTech Valves ? or use other brand ?
- Or Ferrera, a customer has Ferrera H22 Valves (stock size) and they've worked good
Cosmatic Head Gasket
- It's Cometic
TURBO
Innovative Turbo 60-! T4 Duel Ball Bearing or should i go with an T3/t4 or T4 ?
- Depends what kind of power you want to make and how you drive the car. The turbo you use will determine what your powerband is gonna look like
Tubular Turbo maifold
- Are you planning to keep AC and PS?
Tial Wastegate ? or should i use another brand ?
- Tial is the best
Tial BlowOff Valve ? or should repalce with something else ?
XS Intercooler ? or use other brand ?
Apexi AVCR Boost Controller ? or replace with something else ?
- Get a manual boost controller I love the TurboXS HPBC's, get a dual stage if you're gonna be dragging it and want to launch on low boost
FUEL
RC Engineering 720CC injectors
- If you have an expensive-*** built motor, go bigger than that. I run 780's on my stock H22. Fuel = Power, get some 82#'s or something......
AEM Fuel Rail
- You'll also need the AEM FPR and a high flow pump
ECU
Hondata S200 System
P28 OBD 1 ECU ? or use other ECU like 93 civic DX ECu ?
- You need a chipped P28 ECU for the Hondata. Read my post on pros/cons of P28 vs P72 (search)
Motec 3 bar Map sensor ? or use something else like 300ZX TT or Supra TT ?
- Like someone else said, get a GM 3bar


Also, if you're going all out like this, why not get some Crower turbo cams and a Golden Eagle intake manifold w/ Hondata heatshield gasket while you're at it? Don't forget you're gonna wanna do motor mount inserts, put a scattershield on the tranny while the motor is out, get a mean *** clutch, and replace the stock LSD in your type-s tranny with a Quaife that'll handle the power. You'll also need custom IC piping and a custom downpipe, as well as a 3 inch exhaust. Run NGK BCPR7ES-11 plugs, get a good aluminum radiator to deal with the heat.....
That's my .03
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Default Re: Need Help on H22A Turbo Setup (Firedrake)

don't forget dyno tune, dyno tune, and more dyno tune'n

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thanks for that feed back....what abut resleeving ? who had more problems ? Darton or Golden eagle ?
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both darton ge are good, i went w/something custom though, cheeper and good so far...

je's or endyne for pistons

avc-r, gear dependent boost is the way to go

t3-t4 60-1

lovefab mani

ferria valvetrain

hondata

walbro fuel pump
now this is all my opion, do as you want, reasearch man... i could go intol a lot more detail, but this is your setup, not mine were building
Old 09-25-2003, 09:54 PM
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how this sounds ? ....Valve Springs
Crower CNC Titanium Retainers
Crower Adjustable Cam Sprockets
Stainless Steel Valves --stick with CROWER ?
also Crower H22 DOHC VTEC Camshafts
Advertised Duration Duration @ .050" Gross Lift w/1.55
Int-297 mid Exh-287 mid Int-248 mid Exh-240 mid Int-.466 mid Exh-.465 mid would a street/strip set up be good ? (stage 2)
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If this is a street car then be honest with yourself. Quick spool up and usable torque is what wins street races. Go for an Innovative T3-T4e e50 stg5. This Turbo Rocks.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Showoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how this sounds ? ....Valve Springs
Crower CNC Titanium Retainers
Crower Adjustable Cam Sprockets
Stainless Steel Valves --stick with CROWER ?
also Crower H22 DOHC VTEC Camshafts
Advertised Duration Duration @ .050" Gross Lift w/1.55
Int-297 mid Exh-287 mid Int-248 mid Exh-240 mid Int-.466 mid Exh-.465 mid would a street/strip set up be good ? (stage 2)
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drop the cams, stocks are the way to go....unless someone comes out w/a good turbo cam.

too much overlap in n/a cams.
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Camshafts or Cam sprokets ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Showoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> MOTOR
Arias Pistons 9:0 Compression (rings, wrist pins, locks)
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I see one big problem already.

Unless you are getting custom pistons, they are not going to be Arias.
Arias only offers 8:1 and 9.6:1 pistons.


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camshafts,

you dont have to drop to 9.0 if you have good fuel mgmt, i wanted to go 10:1, but i didnt want to wait a month for my pistons, so i went w/9.5:1
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I have less than 8:1 compression currently.
/sigh

getting off the line will suck.
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the reason im going with 9:0 is i dont wanna hit the head under high boost would like to boost up to 20-22 on racing gas what the pro and cons of going 10;0 ? or should 9:5 be good or 8;5 ?
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what kind of 9:5:1's do you have? are they good? do you like how it is?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Firedrake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also, if you're going all out like this, why not get some Crower turbo cams and a Golden Eagle intake manifold w/ Hondata heatshield gasket while you're at it? Don't forget you're gonna wanna do motor mount inserts, put a scattershield on the tranny while the motor is out, get a mean *** clutch, and replace the stock LSD in your type-s tranny with a Quaife that'll handle the power. You'll also need custom IC piping and a custom downpipe, as well as a 3 inch exhaust. Run NGK BCPR7ES-11 plugs, get a good aluminum radiator to deal with the heat.....
That's my .03
Brian
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Where you been Drake?

anyway..... since you're a baller and all why not go with a Aem EMS or my staple.. electromotive? rather than a s200 hondata? just a thought, also, like he said (drake) get a beast clutch, and a quaife..... and while you're at it, some monster axles..you'll break the stockers.... as far as all that head work you want done..... the new springs and retainers.... is good enough, the turbo doesn't care if you have all the port and polish business......yeah i said it... but if you would rather spend your baller dough get the port and polish and valve job, also some larger valves.... if you ask me all this is over kill and can be achieved by using more boost..... but thats me, anyway...... other than that your setup looks good....o wait, you're gonna need a big bad fuel pump, and a big bad reg to go with it.

good luck!
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