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04-20-2005, 09:45 AM
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My best two advice.. always prepare for cars making left turns in front of you. Even if they seem to be looking you dead in the eye, it may not register. And don't tailgate! That's probably one of the most important info whether you're riding or driving.
04-20-2005, 09:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Swags04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, im more "scared" of highway's just because of freak accidents. And your going much faster than town roads... Although they say like 90 percent of accidents are short trips.. 
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I think your fear of highways is misplaced, unless they are very crowded with lots of people hitting their brakes (like Rte. 66 in VA).
The worst places to ride bikes, in my mind, are commercial strips with lots of shops and stuff. Speeds can get up to 60-70mph, and cars are always turning, braking, stopping, and changing lanes.
Condensed city environments are not great, but at least the speeds aren't very high.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I think your fear of highways is misplaced, unless they are very crowded with lots of people hitting their brakes (like Rte. 66 in VA).
The worst places to ride bikes, in my mind, are commercial strips with lots of shops and stuff. Speeds can get up to 60-70mph, and cars are always turning, braking, stopping, and changing lanes.
Condensed city environments are not great, but at least the speeds aren't very high.
04-20-2005, 10:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think your fear of highways is misplaced, unless they are very crowded with lots of people hitting their brakes (like Rte. 66 in VA).
The worst places to ride bikes, in my mind, are commercial strips with lots of shops and stuff. Speeds can get up to 60-70mph, and cars are always turning, braking, stopping, and changing lanes.
Condensed city environments are not great, but at least the speeds aren't very high.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think your fear of highways is misplaced, unless they are very crowded with lots of people hitting their brakes (like Rte. 66 in VA).
The worst places to ride bikes, in my mind, are commercial strips with lots of shops and stuff. Speeds can get up to 60-70mph, and cars are always turning, braking, stopping, and changing lanes.
Condensed city environments are not great, but at least the speeds aren't very high.</TD></TR></TABLE>
04-20-2005, 12:51 PM
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I never the took the msf course. Started on a 87 FZ 600. Now on 2003 600RR. Had one or 2 close calls with the '87 but nothing I couldnt handle. Ive never dropped either. Not saying I never will, but there are plenty of good riders out there who havent taken the msf. You just need a good teacher(thanks gendy 
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Few tips from me:
1. Dont tailgate in any type of traffic. Highway, city, one lane, 2 lane, just dont do it.
2. ALWAYS scan for people turning left AND right. VERY important. You dont look like your going as fast as you are and people often misjudge your speed and/or disant IF they see you at all. Also be ware of slow moving 2 lane traffic. Ive had my lane moving but the right lane not stops to let someone turn left. The person turning left may not see you behind the cars in the right lane. Ive had that happen on many occasions.
3. When at a stop light, I very ofent put my front tire right next the passseger or driver rear tire of the car in front of me if theres room. This way, if someone doesnt see you or doesnt notice the light turned red, they will more than likely rear end the poor ******* infront of you.
4. Never completely release the throttle in a hard lean. You WILL do this as a new guy but you need to know its wrong. This is the main reason why a 600 is a way better newb bike than a 1000. Because when you do it, it will be way more forgiving to you. You should always accelerate through hard turns or at the very least, keep the throttle constant.
5. Use hand signals in heavy traffic. A lot of people get fixated on you or your bike when driving behind you and probably arent going to notice your uber leet integrated blinkers. It is also a VERY good idea to use your hand signals when riding in groups because most riders are concentrated on the road and may not see that your planning a right or left. I use right, left frequently and STOP when I have to break hard.
FalconGSR said assume every car on the road is trying to kill you...plan accordingly.
He hit it the nail right on the head.
)Few tips from me:
1. Dont tailgate in any type of traffic. Highway, city, one lane, 2 lane, just dont do it.
2. ALWAYS scan for people turning left AND right. VERY important. You dont look like your going as fast as you are and people often misjudge your speed and/or disant IF they see you at all. Also be ware of slow moving 2 lane traffic. Ive had my lane moving but the right lane not stops to let someone turn left. The person turning left may not see you behind the cars in the right lane. Ive had that happen on many occasions.
3. When at a stop light, I very ofent put my front tire right next the passseger or driver rear tire of the car in front of me if theres room. This way, if someone doesnt see you or doesnt notice the light turned red, they will more than likely rear end the poor ******* infront of you.
4. Never completely release the throttle in a hard lean. You WILL do this as a new guy but you need to know its wrong. This is the main reason why a 600 is a way better newb bike than a 1000. Because when you do it, it will be way more forgiving to you. You should always accelerate through hard turns or at the very least, keep the throttle constant.
5. Use hand signals in heavy traffic. A lot of people get fixated on you or your bike when driving behind you and probably arent going to notice your uber leet integrated blinkers. It is also a VERY good idea to use your hand signals when riding in groups because most riders are concentrated on the road and may not see that your planning a right or left. I use right, left frequently and STOP when I have to break hard.
FalconGSR said assume every car on the road is trying to kill you...plan accordingly.
He hit it the nail right on the head.
04-20-2005, 03:02 PM
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I dont plan on buying a bike for at least another year or two, but reading the posts in here and seeing riders attitudes about it all is very encouraging, not to mention all the excellent advice! 
After reading the sticky up top, I know at the very least I'll have taken the MSF course before I even go to purchase a bike, and just have a good step ahead mentally about riding that I didnt have before.
After reading the sticky up top, I know at the very least I'll have taken the MSF course before I even go to purchase a bike, and just have a good step ahead mentally about riding that I didnt have before.
04-20-2005, 06:56 PM
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I actually wasnt to scared to ride, i never have been on a actual bike. I rode quads for awhile, which comes in handy when learning to shift. I just took it real slow, didnt accel more than a 1/4 throttle anywhere, and my turns were kept to a minimal lean. Even after 2 full days of riding now, ive been going on some twisties, at about 5-10mph above speed limit trying to get a feel for turning/leaning. In all honestly the part that i most mess up on is starting off! Throttle/Clutch is jumpy sometimes...
But all is well, i prey everytime i get on the bike
But all is well, i prey everytime i get on the bike
04-20-2005, 07:34 PM
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on an RR... the fun starts around 11-12K...
the max power is around 13.5 or so.... and redline is at 15 and the rev limiter kicks in at 17...
if you are riding at 6k and are scared of the bike... wow you really are a noob...
the max power is around 13.5 or so.... and redline is at 15 and the rev limiter kicks in at 17...
if you are riding at 6k and are scared of the bike... wow you really are a noob...
04-20-2005, 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbrkid11 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on an RR... the fun starts around 11-12K...
the max power is around 13.5 or so.... and redline is at 15 and the rev limiter kicks in at 17...
if you are riding at 6k and are scared of the bike... wow you really are a noob...</TD></TR></TABLE>
wrong, wrong and wrong.
peak power = ~11k
redline = 15k, maybe 15,5? definitly not 17 though.
the max power is around 13.5 or so.... and redline is at 15 and the rev limiter kicks in at 17...
if you are riding at 6k and are scared of the bike... wow you really are a noob...</TD></TR></TABLE>
wrong, wrong and wrong.
peak power = ~11k
redline = 15k, maybe 15,5? definitly not 17 though.
04-21-2005, 05:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Swags04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IIn all honestly the part that i most mess up on is starting off! Throttle/Clutch is jumpy sometimes...
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The clutch is your "safety valve". If you can control it, then throttle is irrelevant. If you are having trouble getting it rolling, practice riding your clutch in a parking lot. Find a hill, and come to a complete stop, with your feet down, release the brakes and allow the bike to roll back slowly. Try to stop the bike by using nothing but the clutch, not the throttle. Once you do it a couple of times you should be able to rock the bike back and forth using nothing but the clutch and gravity.
It’s a very simple exercise, but it allows you to learn the friction zone of your clutch, and how to manipulate it. Once you get that down, then see how tight you can turn it in a figure eight. Once you get the figure eight down, see how slow you can do it.
If you really want to impress experienced riders, show them how slow you can ride, not how fast.
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The clutch is your "safety valve". If you can control it, then throttle is irrelevant. If you are having trouble getting it rolling, practice riding your clutch in a parking lot. Find a hill, and come to a complete stop, with your feet down, release the brakes and allow the bike to roll back slowly. Try to stop the bike by using nothing but the clutch, not the throttle. Once you do it a couple of times you should be able to rock the bike back and forth using nothing but the clutch and gravity.
It’s a very simple exercise, but it allows you to learn the friction zone of your clutch, and how to manipulate it. Once you get that down, then see how tight you can turn it in a figure eight. Once you get the figure eight down, see how slow you can do it.
If you really want to impress experienced riders, show them how slow you can ride, not how fast.
04-21-2005, 08:41 AM
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Congrats on the new bike man...look real clean
One more thing that i learned the hard way too....make sure your tires are warm before cornering or fast stops because you hit the throttle down the street and someone pulls right out in front of you, because all you will do i slide...it sucks...
warm tires=better stopping distance
One more thing that i learned the hard way too....make sure your tires are warm before cornering or fast stops because you hit the throttle down the street and someone pulls right out in front of you, because all you will do i slide...it sucks...
warm tires=better stopping distance
04-21-2005, 08:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboDX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Congrats on the new bike man...look real clean
One more thing that i learned the hard way too....make sure your tires are warm before cornering or fast stops because you hit the throttle down the street and someone pulls right out in front of you, because all you will do i slide...it sucks...
warm tires=better stopping distance</TD></TR></TABLE>
Advice taken, but I dont drive the bike hard at all. 3days now and it hasnt seen over 8k or 65mph...
One more thing that i learned the hard way too....make sure your tires are warm before cornering or fast stops because you hit the throttle down the street and someone pulls right out in front of you, because all you will do i slide...it sucks...
warm tires=better stopping distance</TD></TR></TABLE>
Advice taken, but I dont drive the bike hard at all. 3days now and it hasnt seen over 8k or 65mph...
04-21-2005, 09:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Swags04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Advice taken, but I dont drive the bike hard at all. 3days now and it hasnt seen over 8k or 65mph...
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Remember though, even less than 60mph a car could turn out in front of you and it could be bad. I started off in am empty parking lot, then moved to small back roads, then normal roads, then so on. One street by me (on campus) is covered with parked cars, has cars turning onto it, crossing it, 3 lanes on it. Plenty of close calls and the speed limit is 35mph. I had one Jeep pull out in front of me when I was doing around 40 mph, luckily I watch the lanes next to me if I ever need to swerve. I knew there were no cars so I just changed lanes, if I didn't know there was the empty lane next to me, I could have hit a car, smashed into the jeep, lock up the brakes, if I brake will the car behind me brake in time, so on. Always be aware of your surroundings, even have a back up plan or what if plan. What if a car pulls out in front of me, is that lane open? Do I have enough time to stop? How can I avoid it?
Like said before, every driver is out to kill you. Be aware of your surroundings and know your limits. Oh yeah, be safe and smart. Take your time learning, if someone is laughing at you for going slow or taking your time, ignore them they're probably just squids. Everyone had to start sometime.
Advice taken, but I dont drive the bike hard at all. 3days now and it hasnt seen over 8k or 65mph...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Remember though, even less than 60mph a car could turn out in front of you and it could be bad. I started off in am empty parking lot, then moved to small back roads, then normal roads, then so on. One street by me (on campus) is covered with parked cars, has cars turning onto it, crossing it, 3 lanes on it. Plenty of close calls and the speed limit is 35mph. I had one Jeep pull out in front of me when I was doing around 40 mph, luckily I watch the lanes next to me if I ever need to swerve. I knew there were no cars so I just changed lanes, if I didn't know there was the empty lane next to me, I could have hit a car, smashed into the jeep, lock up the brakes, if I brake will the car behind me brake in time, so on. Always be aware of your surroundings, even have a back up plan or what if plan. What if a car pulls out in front of me, is that lane open? Do I have enough time to stop? How can I avoid it?
Like said before, every driver is out to kill you. Be aware of your surroundings and know your limits. Oh yeah, be safe and smart. Take your time learning, if someone is laughing at you for going slow or taking your time, ignore them they're probably just squids. Everyone had to start sometime.
04-21-2005, 03:42 PM
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No doubt, i still havnt taken it on the freeway, just some local highways of speed limit of 50mph. but like you said, i do drive like everyone is out to kill me. If im coming up on a car that is turning in front of me, ill put my foot/hand on the brakes and just get ready.
Took it on some "twisties" some more today, and i really cant belive people can drag there knees on turns..lol
With time
Took it on some "twisties" some more today, and i really cant belive people can drag there knees on turns..lol
With time
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Swags04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Took it on some "twisties" some more today, and i really cant belive people can drag there knees on turns..lol
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KNee? How about your knee and the side of your foot...lol Remember sliders ara good thing
With time
</TD></TR></TABLE>KNee? How about your knee and the side of your foot...lol Remember sliders ara good thing
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