HUBB

I have spoken with a very reputable shop nearby about breaking in my 06 600RR and they recommend that immediatly after purchase with 1-2 miles on the ODO to allow them to break it in on their dyno redlining every gear for about 20 miles. They claim that while doing so and changing the oils a few times during the process that the seals will seat perfectly and allow peak performance for the life of the motor. They said that breaking-in the bike like the factory says to will not allow the seals to settle properly and that up to 10hp can be lost from this. This being my very first BRAND NEW bike i want to make sure i break it in exactly right and wanted some opinions on this claim made by this very reputable shop. Appearently after this intense 20 mile break-in on the dyno i will end up with a full synthtic oil and be able to ride the bike like i would if there was 20,000 miles on it. Can i please get some feedback on this please? thanks---Aaron

EGlovr

fwiw, i know people who follow the owner's manual to the "T" and break their bikes in that way.

i also know a guy who's dad rode the **** out of all his new bikes to break them in. his tried and true method works, and he still does it.

are they charging you extra to break it in for you?

ive never heard of you losing HP just because of seals.

.02

HUBB

they are most definitely gonna charge me for the break-in dyno time....i dont know the guys there personally or anything.

tylercrx

I honestly dont believe it should be a problem, you dont need that service at all. If it was that big a deal they would have it at every dealership. And as far as long lasting, you probably wont own it for its life.

EngineNoO9

eh... just follow the break in procedures according to the manual... this always is an argument in the car and motorcycle world... Some say drive it like you're gonna drive or ride it normally as break in... And others say only do normal break in... I dunno... I'd give it sometime to make sure everything's seated properly with the rings and seals but maybe not the full 1000 miles or whatever... Hell for the average rider that only rides 3000 miles a year they'd spend most of the year breaking it in....

also with oil just use the honda oil they sell at the store or motul which they'll most likely carry as well... Just do a change every 1500 miles (I believe the manual says to do several oil changes early on but follow this after the break in). Oil changes are possibly the most important thing with the bike. More so then a car... I'm **** about the bike where the car I don't even remember exactly when i changed it or when it needs to be changed... heh

chitownrida

personal preference... i dont think the owners manual would ever say the beat the **** out of the bike...

i beat mine the when i got it, redline in the first 3 gears, changed the oil right away
.no problems


my buddy got his bike the same day, babied it like the manual said. no problems either..


up to you

s2kkk

Man if you dont just get on that bike and ride it like you stole it you dont deserve to have a bike. You dont have to break in a bike. Just change the oil once every 2 weeks for the first month and your good to go.

HUBB

[QUOTE=s2kkk]Man if you dont just get on that bike and ride it like you stole it you dont deserve to have a bike.QUOTE] what? ok. anyways im just tyrin to play it safe....thats all. im planning on tracking the bike here and there along with commuting on it.....just want it to hold up for a few years.....ill most likely follow the break in directions and slowly start rippin on it as the miles increase....

The Hooligan

my buddies break in process on his busa was 1500 miles of 1/4 mile passes. never had one problem and is still a very strong bike.

and for oil, id change it immediately cause i hear theres metal shavings in it from when it gets built at the factory.

s2kkk

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by floss &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my buddies break in process on his busa was 1500 miles of 1/4 mile passes. never had one problem and is still a very strong bike.

and for oil, id change it immediately cause i hear theres metal shavings in it from when it gets built at the factory. </TD></TR></TABLE>


My point exactly.

HUBB

i dunno...its a tough call....i would mentally feel better breaking it in by factory reccomendations but like u guys said either way has proven to work out....

Rah Rah

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

s2kkk

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My point exactly. Thanks guys.

I just bought a 2006 G35. It has 500 miles on it and its seen redline more than a hand full of times.

Duster

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s2kkk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I just bought a 2006 G35. It has 500 miles on it and its seen redline more than a hand full of times.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would certainly NOT break a car engine in this way, to me that is stupid...a bike, hell yes ...a car that your planning on keeping for an extended period of time should be broken in the same way you drive everyday. If you drive redline every single time you get in the car then so be it....

As for a bike, ride it hard, ride it like you stole it...

ngng

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I would certainly NOT break a car engine in this way, to me that is stupid...a bike, hell yes ...a car that your planning on keeping for an extended period of time should be broken in the same way you drive everyday. If you drive redline every single time you get in the car then so be it....

As for a bike, ride it hard, ride it like you stole it...</TD></TR></TABLE>

.....uhh

the purpose of breaking the engine in at the track or dyno is to propely seal the rings. it's not..."ride it like you stole it". an engine broekn in for either a car OR a bike will last longer and provide more power.

Duster

I don't think taking a 2006 G35 coupe out and bagging the crap out of it is going to properly break the engine in. If you think that, then good for you but I dont think that is the proper way to see engine longivity in a car...Your going to see MAYBE 2 WHP from a dyno break-in. The dyno shop here strongly recommends AGAINST breaking an engine in on the dyno. There must be some reason for that?


As for my "ride it like you stole it" it was not to be taken literally, i know some people don't understand sarcasm, but what i should have said was, take it out somewhere flat and very straight, hard acceleration followed by engine deceleration, do it hard through 1,2 and 3rd gear, and allow engine to slow you back down. Much like a dyno break in....

Point is....it doesn't make a difference, people have been doing both ways for 50 years...do what is more comfortable to you....if your scared your gonna break a race-bike, then baby it...

s2kkk

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DusterDC5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think taking a 2006 G35 coupe out and bagging the crap out of it is going to properly break the engine in. If you think that, then good for you but I dont think that is the proper way to see engine longivity in a car...Your going to see MAYBE 2 WHP from a dyno break-in. The dyno shop here strongly recommends AGAINST breaking an engine in on the dyno. There must be some reason for that?


As for my "ride it like you stole it" it was not to be taken literally, i know some people don't understand sarcasm, but what i should have said was, take it out somewhere flat and very straight, hard acceleration followed by engine deceleration, do it hard through 1,2 and 3rd gear, and allow engine to slow you back down. Much like a dyno break in.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Uhhh... if your dyno shop told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? There must be a reason for it if they tell you to do it. C'mon bro... Did you ever phsyically take 2 engines, 1 broken in the easy way and the other broken in the hard way and compare the 2? Probably not, but if you did good for you. Go ask any REAL mechanic this break in question and get your REAL answer. Of course mechanics at a dealership are going to tell you to break your car/bike in per manufacture because they sold you the damn thing. Oh and as for my G35. I bought the car so I'm going to drive it the way I want ok. Boost is in the works already.

Duster

No, and I did not break my engine in according to anyone, All the engines I have broke in I broke in different. No I have no pulled any of them apart, why the hell would i pull apart an engine that is running perfectly...lol, only reason to pull an engine apart is cause you wrecked something or your rebuilding it. I highly doubt you have ever done it either (pulled 2 engines apart that were broken in different yet experiencd the same life) but you can read internet forums and they are about as reliable as talking to the dyno shop down my street..

Kudos to you on breaking your G35 in by driving the crap out of it. Must be nice to have rich parents to buy you a brand new $40,000 car??

.water

there was thread about. break in. it says, you need to ride hard. differnt from car. yes it says You need to Ride hard.

this is it..

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Nishant

I hope you know that MB AMG motors come broken in. Now how do the you think they are broken in? On a dyno. They make sure to vary the rpm's alot on a dyno. Are they taken to redline? You bet and often. Its one definite way to ensure proper ring seating/break in. There are other manufacturers that do this as well. I am pretty sure BMW does it with some models but I need to look into which ones.

I hope you realize that the whole break in it slow stems back from the when cars were first made. Production and technology have gotten much much better since then. Engines are made very close to spec where the whole 600 miles break in isn't necessary. In fact, its been proven that the true break in period for a motor (ring seating) is the first 20-50 miles.

Everyone will say something different about break in. There is plenty of facts out there. You read and do what you feel most comfortable with. I personally am a person who would break in a car hard whether its some 10k hyundai or 100k+ supercar. That is not the case with all.

Duster

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .water &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there was thread about. break in. it says, you need to ride hard. differnt from car. yes it says You need to Ride hard.

this is it..

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>

....deja vu....

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Everyone will say something different about break in. There is plenty of facts out there. You read and do what you feel most comfortable with. </TD></TR></TABLE>

deja vu again

as you stated, modern technology is EXTREMELY sophisticated compaired to what it used to be, they say your rings are set 95% in your first 30 miles... which is why you see A LOT of the "rev 1,2,3rd gear , do it 10 times, change your oil, engine break-in complete"

.water

so you are saying, rev that hell out when u first got it?

Nishant

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .water &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you are saying, rev that hell out when u first got it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

If by rev the hell out of it, you mean vary the rpm's in all gears(both acceleration and deceleration) then yes

.water

i see. ya, thats what it says on link i posted too.

and about oil, use non-syn then after 3 oil change, start using syn.

s2kkk

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DusterDC5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Kudos to you on breaking your G35 in by driving the crap out of it. Must be nice to have rich parents to buy you a brand new $40,000 car??
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How did I know that was coming. Your a jerk off dude. I mean if you must know I pay for my own ****. Dont be a jealous hater. Its called a good job. Do you have one of those? Probably not seeing that you say the **** you do.

Oh... and it was $41,691.