Notices

Wideband O2 question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-03-2013, 06:45 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Tims Toy 500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: AZ
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Icon2 Wideband O2 question

Is it possible to install a wideband O2 sensor in the stock position and have my stock ECU use it alongside my Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge using the same one? How? Maybe there is such a thing as a Wideband O2 with a "Y" cable??? Any Ideas?
Old 10-03-2013, 10:55 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
DCRB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Posts: 5,191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

i would not put a wide band o2 sensor in the stock location if that is on runner number 4, but further down stream like where y8 o2 sensors are.

both aem and higher end innovative wide band sensors support narrow band simulation, which allows you to hook up a wire from the wide band gauge to the stock narrow band ecu port
Old 10-04-2013, 02:37 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Freemananana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,255
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by DCRB
i would not put a wide band o2 sensor in the stock location if that is on runner number 4, but further down stream like where y8 o2 sensors are.

both aem and higher end innovative wide band sensors support narrow band simulation, which allows you to hook up a wire from the wide band gauge to the stock narrow band ecu port
Agreed. Even if you can't weld, there are no-weld in bungs made by AEM. They use a drilled in hole and a clamp. Don't put it on one running, it won't be 'accurate' for the whole motor. Example, my cylinder #1 had a misfire and spewed fuel out my tailpipe. If I had my wideband on the #4 runner, it would have been reading just fine.

My AEM UEGO? or whatever it is, wideband, I believe supports narrow band emulation. I however, just kept my stock O2 sensors where they were and mounted my wideband elsewhere.
Old 10-04-2013, 10:04 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Tims Toy 500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: AZ
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Mine appears to be at the end of the manifold. So,this is acceptable? Or is it to close?
Attached Images  
Old 10-04-2013, 10:20 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Freemananana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,255
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

I think that is probably fine, but mine is closer to the cat.
Old 10-04-2013, 10:20 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
F22Master's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,858
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

It's better to use both. Keep the stock one for the ECU, and add the wideband elsewhere (further downstream) and use its own gauge.
Old 10-04-2013, 10:31 AM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Black R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Atlantis
Posts: 12,948
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

I run one under car as my primary, but yes it's an innovate wideband.
I don't currently run an oe narrowband at all.
Old 10-04-2013, 10:45 AM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Freemananana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,255
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by F22Master
It's better to use both. Keep the stock one for the ECU, and add the wideband elsewhere (further downstream) and use its own gauge.
This is more or less my suggestion, but obviously the other way does work.
Old 10-04-2013, 04:36 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
swordofdoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lincoln, WTF, USA
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

A wideband suggestion is to have it at least 2 ft away from the exhaust port. Thats so that it gets a proper reading from all the cylinders.
Old 10-04-2013, 07:49 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Tims Toy 500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: AZ
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by swordofdoom
A wideband suggestion is to have it at least 2 ft away from the exhaust port. Thats so that it gets a proper reading from all the cylinders.
Yea... Not even close :-) LOL!
Attached Images  
Old 10-05-2013, 11:15 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
DCRB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Posts: 5,191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

i bought a bung off of ebay for 2 dollars and paid an exhaust shop 5 bux to weld it onto my down pipe. most widebands you buy new come with the bung as well, i know the AEM does
Old 10-05-2013, 03:17 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Freemananana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,255
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by DCRB
i bought a bung off of ebay for 2 dollars and paid an exhaust shop 5 bux to weld it onto my down pipe. most widebands you buy new come with the bung as well, i know the AEM does
AEM does in fact come with one. I got a one of the clamp on style bungs that I'm going to try out and I'll post my results. It was on sale on amazon, $30. But I can transfer it to my new exhaust when I get that done in the next couple months.
Old 10-05-2013, 05:43 PM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Black R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Atlantis
Posts: 12,948
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

The innovate MTX is $150 on eBay and comes with a new bung.

That's what I'm using in one of my cars.
Old 10-06-2013, 01:38 AM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
DCRB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Posts: 5,191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by Black R
The innovate MTX is $150 on eBay and comes with a new bung.

That's what I'm using in one of my cars.
i have the MTX-L i believe, i love it. self calibrating, easy to hook up, and you can buy replacement o2 sensors from autozone for 50 bux
Old 10-06-2013, 07:11 AM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Freemananana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,255
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by DCRB
i have the MTX-L i believe, i love it. self calibrating, easy to hook up, and you can buy replacement o2 sensors from autozone for 50 bux
Dang, I got my AEM for $160 and I forget what the bosch sensors are. Probably right at $50 or so from autozone. They came on quite a few different cars, stock.
Old 10-06-2013, 08:20 AM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Black R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Atlantis
Posts: 12,948
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by DCRB
i have the MTX-L i believe, i love it. self calibrating, easy to hook up, and you can buy replacement o2 sensors from autozone for 50 bux


I'm going to buy another one bc they're hard to live without.
Old 10-06-2013, 10:14 AM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
DCRB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Posts: 5,191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

when i bought mine the computer said my sensor was for a newer hyundai haha
Old 10-06-2013, 12:41 PM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Tims Toy 500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: AZ
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by DCRB
i have the MTX-L i believe, i love it. self calibrating, easy to hook up, and you can buy replacement o2 sensors from autozone for 50 bux
"self calibrating"??? I thought ALL O2 sensor / air-fuel setups were just plug and play. Guess I need to do some educating/research... Thanks for the Info!
Old 10-06-2013, 02:04 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Freemananana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,255
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Wideband O2 question

Originally Posted by Tims Toy 500
"self calibrating"??? I thought ALL O2 sensor / air-fuel setups were just plug and play. Guess I need to do some educating/research... Thanks for the Info!
I think that has to do with them being run in an overly rich environment for too long.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
purposebuilt
Engine Management and Tuning
5
09-20-2018 08:59 PM
turboHX
Tech / Misc
3
08-03-2005 12:38 PM
coupon
Forced Induction
17
12-08-2004 09:00 AM
birz
Forced Induction
13
01-14-2004 04:39 PM
TriK
Forced Induction
8
08-24-2002 07:38 AM



Quick Reply: Wideband O2 question



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:30 AM.