domokun1521

Hello! I was wondering, i am on Ground Controls on my ef hatch, and they didnt make me as low as i wanted to go, would it help if i took out the bump stops ?? if not i think i am gonna sell the ground controls and get a new suspension set-up any suggestions on coilovers that will dump me??? Please help... Thanks

usdm-honda-r18

Do u have the full ground control koni yellows and all 4 top hats that's wat my boy has on his ef n he is slammed to hell!!

Creator

iTrader: (1)

Removing the bump stops will not get you any lower. The only way to do that is to get shorter springs, softer springs(don't do this), or lower the spring perch on the shock.

domokun1521

The perch in the back is all the way down, and the front has 7 threads left??? i need to lower the front about 2 threads but still it is not going to do much... i am thinking about buying 4 inch springs that will fit my ground controls, and are you sure the bump stops wont make me lower, what if im just sitting on the bump stops??

no i have them on stock struts and shocks, but i heard that the koni yellows will not make you any lower??? and top hats?? they come with the yellows?

Captain Key!s

iTrader: (4)

If you remove the bump stops, your ride will be shot to hell, not to mention very unsafe in my book.

91STDFLOW

stock shocks arent made for lowering springs, get konis and high hats, whats the spring height btw on the gc?

blue91EF

modding stock suspension no bueno

lazy14

you got low pros, i got the same and im low, but wasnt at first, had stock tires on 02 si ep3's, got sum 50 series tires n im good, n you could always go with 45 series tires, they are kinda spendy, but i ended up with a over 3 inch drop

domokun1521

my tires are 195/50/15

i believe there 6 inches, but not 100 %

domokun1521

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KSpor...Q5fAccessories
what do you guys think about these?? will they slam u??

Tyson

Did you reuse the dust boots?

You should not have.

tonylovesjdmEF9

okay bro easy way to dump your car is getting extended top hats really even if they are cheapo springs or coilover sleeves and a set of either koni reds or yellows bro

domokun1521

extended top hats dont make you lower, or thats what i have heard... and do koni's make you lower? ive heard they dont...

domokun1521

not sure what dust boots are lol nOOb

gringo7718

If you lower the car on stock size shocks, the car's weight will just rest on the bottomed out shock and the body of the shock will prevent the car from going lower. There are two ways around this.

1. Extended top hats (allows the body of the shock to travel higher)
2. Shorter shock body (you can go lower without the shock bottoming out)

Here is an example of shorter shock body


Well if you want to tuck rim, I would just get BOTH an adjustable coilover system with a "shorter shock body" for more travel even when the car is low. Combine this with extended top hats and you will be able to go pretty damn low.

something like this


Top hats will NOT lower the car directly. They do allow the shock to tuck up higher, so that you CAN lower the car more before the shock bottoms out.


diy extended top hats
https://honda-tech.com/forums/welding-fabrication-53/extended-top-hats-tophat-mod-2385931/

basically cut and weld a tube in there

tonylovesjdmEF9

gringo thanks for explaining

the right way to lower you car is with konis dont get tokicos cuz they blow out quickly.
konis have adjustable perches so it will drop the car about a inch or half more plus what your springs or sleeves can.
stiff springs will keep you from bottoming out the car most of the time
and top hats to keep you from blowing out the shocks too
always when slamming a car rememer alot of things are put into stress and danger bro

oil pan, and headers will get damaged for sure bro unless you got a skid plate and drive like a granny

suspension gets alot of stress on it. tires will get mad camber wear so i suggest a camber kit

last dangerous thing that could happen after a while your shock towers crack and your car is totaly unsafe to drive

domokun1521

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GROUN...Q5fAccessories
these are the ground controls that i got so will koni yellows fit with these??? can i get a link of konis that will fit these, and ya im pretty aware that i have to drive slowly lol but you gotta pay to play lol.. but i do really appriciate all the help, im just kinda getting into the honda game and am still learning,since i just got my ef less than a month back ago!

domokun1521

just found out all koni's fit these, so i think im going to invest in koni yellows, you know if you just use stock top hats with these??

tonylovesjdmEF9

yeah you can ill i have my ef on kw stage one springs with koni reds special and stock top hats and sk2 camber kits rides great for a daily and sometimes it takes a beat around the cayons hehehe

gringo7718

Incorrect.
Lowering the spring perch actually raises the shock body (relative to the top hat) and you will bottom out on the body of the shock even sooner.

efjones9

anyone have those hats for sale??

gringo7718

Top Hats for sale:

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...p/II=642/CA=71

0T_S_S

ST Suspensions Coilovers will do the following
Lowering front: 1.2"-2.8"
Lowering rear: 1.2"-2.8"

Pee Wee

find some H&R ultra low coilovers

domokun1521

http://www.slickcar.com/productdetai...ProductID=1679 anyone heard about these, probaly not the best ride but would slam me pretty good it looks like, and would be safer than taking bumpstops out and stuff like that