DoubleM

Hi,

I own a Civic 1.6iVT (EE9) and iīm having an issue when starting the car.

For some time, the engine started fine but some times it did an grinding noise for an half an second.

The mechanic told me it should be the starter bendix/solenoid and installed a new one. However the part he installed wasnīt the correct one so he had to machining it. I donīt know if thatīs the reason or not but the problem remains. Exactly the same symptom and the same noise.

He will take a new look at it but unfortunately i start to suspect the problem can be the flywheel.

In advance i was trying to look for some OEM replacement flywheel, only to have an idea of the prices but surprisingly i canīt find a single one. I can find for other Honda engines, but not for B16. Only lightweight flywheels which costs a lot more the ones i was looking for other engines. I found Flywheels from $50 ou $60 from Sachs for example, when a lightweight flywheel costs almost $300.

Does anyone knows any company that produces OEM replacement flywheels for this engine?

kp

Have you tried calling Honda?

Tyson

http://www.clutchcityonline.com/

acmoc

Beware of the exedy flywheel, I bought one and it grinded. They didn't warranty it either.

DoubleM

Not yet, i will as soon as i identify the real problem and if itīs the flywheel... The car is already in the mechanic. But i think it will be really expensive. I saw an Honda online catalogue where it costs more than $600!

Thanks, iīll have a look.

Thanks for the advice. I think iīll avoid that.

In the last resource, i found an ACT Streetlite for about $300. But itīs a lot more than i want to spend and i would prefer a stock one with the same weight... The car is almost stock.

Meanwhile i found this one:

FX Racing OE Spec Flywheel Crv B20 Integra B17 B18 Civic Si Delsol B16 DOHC VTEC

However i donīt know itīs quality... and when i tried to simulate the shipping costs it resulted in more than $300! I live in Europe. I send them an e-mail asking for a quote but iīm still waiting.

acmoc

I would advise one of the ebay sellers who carry fidanza.

Lots of good reviews


Also: There is a plate than can be removed to visually inspect the flywheel.
Maybe the ringtooth broke.

DoubleM

Well, i have some news. Unfortunately bad ones.

Itīs seems itīs the Flywheel indeed. Some teeths are chipped.

They told me a genuine Honda flywheel costs a little more than $500 (and they didnīt know if itīs in stock). I will not give that money for it. Besides that, iīll have to pay for the job done.

So, iīm looking again for a OEM Replacement Flywheel but i still canīt find a single one. Itīs impressive. I can find for other cars, even some other Hondas, but not for the B16, one of the most popular Honda engines.

So, iīll leave the question one more time.

Does anyone knows any good brand (i donīt want chinese stuff), that sells OEM Replacement Flywheels for B16? I want one with the same specs the original one. Even the same weight.

If iīm not able to find one, iīm thinking about the ATC Streetlite, but i really prefer a stock weight one. Itīs a daily drive car. Iīm not racing with it and itīs almost stock. Only the catalytic is off and it has a Supersprint muffler.

Edit:

Iīm looking better now at the Website and it seems they have one, but iīm not sure about the quality and the compatibility. I looked for the part number and in some places it shows like AMS, in others Rhinopac?

DoubleM

Wow, finally i think i found some compatible flywheels... including from Luk and Sachs.

Iīm looking at the LuK LFW225.

Can anyone please confirm if itīs compatible with B16?

It talks about CR-V 2.0 and some Integras too, but not the Type-R. But i guess as long as they fit in a B series it doesnīt matter if itīs a VTEC version or not, iīm i right?

Tyson

the exedy clutches and flywheels are OE.

acmoc

The exedy cluches and flywheels are not oe. Not even oe spec


I have the oe exedy and it chatters.



OP. Look at Bisimoto flywheels, they're alluminum and well made, good pricing and good customer service

I reccomend an act clutch

Tyson

exedy/daikin is OE.

sorry to hear you messed up your installation. im really not surprised. doesnt change the facts.

I had an ACT clutch. one of my worst upgrades, pointless for a stock engine.

TeamRedline89Hatch

I am running an oem '96 jdm type r flywheel on my b20.

acmoc

OP, you are in Portugal, is there a Napa autoparts there by chance?

DoubleM

No, i donīt think so... At least i never heard that name...

Meanwhile, the mechanic told me he was trying and trying to adjust the starter and even doing some fine adjustments in the bendix but no results at all. The symptoms still there. He says itīs the flywheel, no doubts.

However, theres something strange.

He gave me the old bendix and iīm looking at it and i donīt notice any teeth damage. Shouldnīt the bendix teeth damage before the flywheel teeth? Or the damage is something that sometimes canīt be checked at naked eye?

Here some pics of the old bendix. I can take some other photos and iīll do a movie with the sound the car makes.

acmoc

There won't be any damage, it's just the teeth not engaging correctly.
So it's like a rub.
They are really strong, because obviously if they broke easily. You'd hsave no starter

I had an xxedy flywheel put in and the teeth were not machined correctly so it would rub.

The exedy on the left and the bisimoto on the right

You see the exedy has a small ridge left in the deepest part of each groove. That's where it was rubbing, this maybe could have been solved by grinding the teeth of the starter down a bit, or spacing it higher.

The Bisimoto is 9 lbs and so I just used that one.

DoubleM

Hereīs a small video of the noise.

Sometimes it does an even worse sound.