hatch_kidb18b1

ok i wanna know what mounts to use to put into my ef and if it will even work lol i have heard so much stuff that the motor will not fit but its pretty much the same as a b20 so please any input is helpfull ....oh and what axles to use

jhammond_82

iTrader: (1)

you can get mounts off ebay, or buy my el'cheapo's. yeah the mounts for all b series are the same. and you would want to use integra axles. the 90-93 axles work. unless your going hydraulic transmission, which is alot more work involved. i have axles for sale also, .

hatch_kidb18b1

ok thanks and also will the b16 head bolt up just like the b20? and what ecu do u suggest ?

jhammond_82

iTrader: (1)

i'd suggest converting to obd1. then you could use a p75, or p28, or a p72. i'd do the p75 and get it chipped with whatever you want in it. yes and no as far as the b16 head bolting up to a b20 block. it will work, but you need to do some modifications to your engine to make it work properly. check these links out, i copied them from the integra forum faq.

---Engine, LS/VTEC and CRVTEC---
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/ls-vtec-hp-2207108/ - Good LS/VTEC discussion
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1676914 - LSVTEC Build
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1812388 - LSVTEC Build price list
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1119323 – A Few Good Links
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1082172 – A Few More Good Links
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1083788 – Break-In Period
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=501372 – Reliability Issues
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720621 – Quarter Mile Times
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=805408 – Using LS ECU
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1467903 - B20 NonVtec FAQ -
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1767009 - B18C1 vs B16A Head flow chart

Eli2

I've actually heard that the B20A's that are found in the preludes arent even considered a "B" series motor and arent worth the while to swap in since most of the parts arent compatible with the other B-series motors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B20A_engine

hatch_kidb18b1

well if its not really a b series than why is the block stamped with a b they are in fact part of the b series family

Eli2

Lol well it is technically a B series motor of course, BUT its the only "B" motor that is NOT compatible with most of the parts from the rest of the B-series motors. Therefore there wont be any B20a vtec lol. Now if you mean the B20B/Z from the crv then thats a different story. But if not then I'd trash that motor and pick up a REAL B-series
http://b20a.org/index.php/b20a-b-series
Eli

Disclaimer: I am not trash talking the B20a line of motors just merely stating that they are not like the other B-series line of motors lol.

SIred91

If it is a B20A5 or B21A1 out of the old preludes.....

IT WILL NOT WORK WITH ANY OTHER B SERIES ANYTHING. Especially for a swap.

They are garbage. And totally different from all other Bseries. NOT INTERCHANGABLE

D16SiHatch

agreed. eli is spot on

edit: as is SIred91 lol

jhammond_82

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i'd have to agree with that also. those motors are junk and not worth spending any money on. they do cash those in for scrap though, .

boostedmonkey

No, the mounts for ALL B series are not the same. The B20A5 and the B21A1 motors out of the 88-91 Preludes have the same motor mounts to them, but as far as the rest of the B's, they're not the same. The Prelude B motors are nothing like any other B motors. Completely different. The B motors out of CR-V's, however are closer to the rest of the B family. That's why i've heard of several guys go with the CR-Vtec combo. B16 head on a CR-V B20 block. They come with either a B20B or B20Z.

jhammond_82

iTrader: (1)

i don't consider the prelude b series a b series. the b16/b18a/b/c and b20z are the same though. guess i should have worded that a little differently.

boostedmonkey

Says you that they're garbage. I love the B20A5 motor in my 88 Prelude. They're not garbage, at all. That's merely a **** poor opinion from someone who obviously has never dealt with one, or listens to everyone else's shitty opinion on the B20A5 and B21A1 motors as being garbage, because no one really does anything with them. Wanna know why? Because there really isn't any part support for them. That's why. That doesn't make them garbage. The B20A5 came in the 88-91 Lude, and the B21A1 only came in the 90-91. Not very long of a production run to really do anything with them. I've actually managed to find internals and valve train components for the B20A5, so before you spout off about, "They're garbage", why don't you do some research before shooting your mouth off. Don't listen to every other asshat out there. Think for yourself. My Prelude is on almost 212,000 original miles on my car, with the original motor. It's only had two head gaskets and two water pumps done to the motor. It still had crosshatching in the cylinders on gasket #2. That's pretty impressive for a motor that's "garbage", as you say. Pssssht. W/E.

88Hatchy

Not garbage? What kind of power are yo making with it then?

boostedmonkey

I was actually contemplating on pulling my B20A5 outta my Prelude, build it and drop it in my CRX. Why? Because i can. I have an F23 sitting on my garage floor, just waiting for an H22 head to Frakenstein it and put THAT into my Prelude. For the naysayers, where's a will, there's a way. Just because anyone says it can't be done, doesn't make it so. Just because someone says that a motor is junk, doesn't make it so, either.

boostedmonkey

Did you actually read my post? I said it was stock. I haven't done anything with it, because it's my DD and i don't have the money right now. I have a 91 project CRX that i'm working on. Until i get that up and running, i won't be able to work on the Prelude.

jhammond_82

iTrader: (1)

i agree ^^ but 12978230498723 people's opinions came from somewhere didn't they?

boostedmonkey

That's just it. It's an OPINION. It's not a FACT. Opinions are just likes ********. Everyone has one, and they all stink. Some more than others.

Eli2

Hmmmm

SIred91

You are a moron, I have owned 4 3rd gen preludes and know all there is to know about those cars. I have boosted two and roadraced one, then decided how much time and money I was wasting on a tired and out of date platform with NO aftermarket support.

Know someone before you go shooting your mouth off.

P.S. my screen name is actually from my prelude days. 91 red si prelude.

boostedmonkey

Big man with the name calling. You, sir, are a moron. I guess you are just an absolute expert on 3G Preludes, then, aren't you? Doubtful. Obviously you didn't look hard enough for any aftermarket parts for our 3G's. Don't come at me sideways like a jacked up spider monkey. What does having to know someone have to do with this thread and convo, anyway? Nothing. I've know several guys that have boosted their 3G, without having to take out a loan and selling organs/giving up first born/donating blood, to do it. Just because i may not know you, doesn't mean that you know anything, anyway.

SIred91

LOL at you! you are the one who mouthed off, HAHAHAH
Talk about a puffed up little guy with something to prove.

boostedmonkey

I don't have anything to prove. YOU were the one who popped of on your first post in here at me saying you are mister 3g prelude expert and that you know all there is to know about them. I already told you that i've been able to find stuff for the 3g. If you can't than you suck at searching. From what i've seen, so far, you suck at life, also.

DCRB

GUYS GUYS GUYS CALM DOWN. the o/p had a legit question. every one is entitled to their opinion. let's get this back to the origonal topic before one of our lovely mods shuts down this guys thread.

chwkef

No.

-Dirk




ps 3g preludes are gay