HumanResource

HG job easier than a complete swap to me, but that's just my opinion
all bros should know how to so a HG job -LEARN or pay for your ignorance

Engine importers warranty their engines, because they get a bad one every once in a while
with the age of these engines who knows if it'll fire up
My DOHC ZC kicked *** for 2 yrs then blew the hg
If I were to do it all over again, I'd just rebuild a D16A6 n call it a day

I swapped an H22 twice before I got one that worked
compression test and leakdown test don't tell you the whole story
rod knocks, broked expensive sensors, leaky gaskets, these all come with the territory

It's a gamble, DO YOU FEEL LUCKY???

I hate wasting effort

jayel79

well thats where im at. i just want to start slow and learn the whole time. i did more reaserce and found that stock d16 rods are no good past 200hp or over 7200 rpms wichever comes first. i can get a complete 94 civic ex for cheap. the motor and tranny are the only good things (well and rear disk), but its complete with ecu and all wires. so my question is would i be safe trying to put that 1.6 from the civicex in my crxsi? v-tec is nice. i keep hearing that its easy cuz of my ecu. true or false??

jdmwannabee

if you have an si it will be "easy" you would just have to run 3 wires for vtec, and you need a jumper harness to convert from obd0 to obd1 and you're good to go

soodominican

stay with the ed, don't buy another car, just fix the head gasket which you said you were going to do before it blew anyway. d16a6's have great potential if you just want 200whp in the future, project car did it in a 331K (it was either 331 or 313K) mile motor. b16's are pieces of **** unless you have a lot of money torqueless from beginning to end and not worth the money you'll spend swapping it, why do i say so? because i have a 96 b18b and spank them ***** all day long, and yes all day long, I go UTI i get challenged on a regular basis. just do some maintenance and basic bolt-ons and save your money for whatever you want to do. don't rush that's when mistakes happen. if you like d-series motors buy a z6 and build it up, turbo it, go NA whatever pleases you best and once its done and you've done enough work to the chassis to be able to control all this power drop it in. want to not follow the crowd like me? build an all motor b18b, this motor has incredible potential that most ppl fail to see just because it doesn't have vtec. i kno someone who rebuilt his b18b with all oem stock parts, dyno tuned it with a local tuner and got 145whp, not bad for a completely stock motor imo. in the end it's all up to you man, do whatever makes you happy don't follow the crowd just cause its what every1 else is doing, good luck

aasarsak

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This is the last time I'm going to post in this thread, but I just want to make one last point.

Some people have been coming on here and bashing the advice I'm trying to give this guy for whatever reason. I'm not even going to speculate why some people are so against B16s, and I don't want anybody commenting on that, because the D series, B16, B18, etc battles/arguments/discussions/etc always end up going in circles.

One thing to keep in mind:

In the grand scheme of things, you have to remember one thing, and that is that what WE all do to our cars is incredible. To take a little 1.5, 1.6, or even 1.8 motors, and get them to compete, and win against all the domestic muscle cars says a lot about the potential of our motors.

At no time have I ever said that D16s are slow, or they are worthless, or that B16s are better. All I'm saying is that IN MY OPINION I feel like this cat would be better off with a B16 swap. PERIOD. I came to this conclusion based on the scenario he gave me. I'm not trying to argue or battle or talk motor potential theory with anyone because that proves nothing. This guy asked for our opinion, so there is no need to degrade others or their opinions.

Yes, he may be able to get away with just swapping the head gasket, and slapping a turbo on it.

Yes, he may end up getting a defective motor from the importer.

Yes, he may get struck by lightning and die while he is reading this.

The point is: WHO CARES WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN OR WHAT COULD HAPPEN?

I just came here to share my opinion while doing my best to be respectful of the opinions of others, not have a philisophical debate about which came first: The chicken or the egg?

So lets all just relax, drink a beer, and have fun and stop trying to cut eachother's throats over a stupid motor selection. We should all be impressed with eachother and what we are capable of.

In my opinion, there are few things more ritious than watching an EF walk on a V8...

PEACE!

jayel79

right on man... ive been running into huge attitude (from one or two) because of minor stuff, on this sight. ive gotton some great advice too. but lets face it, it is what it is, a sight where people find answers. and for someone to come along and leave stupid messages because of a mistake, or miss type or whatever, makes me somtimes want to find a diff forum. expecially when its the senior members doin it. you cant leave a crappy message and not expect to get some stuff started. this isnt cool hand luke and "you better shape up fast if you wanna be in this gang!" type stuff. im a 29 year old man that wants to learn how to make my car go fast. i was told to try a forum....at any rate again thanks for the help, so AASARSAK, heres to you and your absolutly right!!

soodominican

HONDA LOVE FTW!! lol. so have you decided what you're going to do yet?

ef_junky

i understand waht your saying about everything but d is a good place to start if your a beginner less moving parts and so easy to work on and the engines weigh nothing so he could swap it out by his self if he wanted to and it gets him experience points IMO b16s aren't as great as i thought they would be i've drove probably over 20-30 different single cams and they were all fun especially the a6 i love that engine if i could buy everyone i cam across i would. but you could put the same amount of money into turboing the a6 as you would buying the b16, and they have a right up on here somewhere about DIY block gaurd, but it is truely up to you guy good luck and if you need any help just ask.

Brain909

i am so dissapointed at the misinformation in this thread i dont even know were to begin. just keep what you have man and boost it, NA d series dont have a chance, a junkyard turbo build will walk all over b16's any day. with the money you have to spend you can build a killer boosted d-series setup, just have to take your time and do some research on here.

jayel79

im goin to do a vtech sohc. boost it and when ive got that to where i understand it fully, (well as full as someone can understand by trial and error), then maybe the b series.