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Old 08-22-2010, 01:21 PM
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^You are doing more harm than good.
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Originally Posted by SpecialBrownie
^You are doing more harm than good.
Fuuuuuu. Well i checked the wires and they are all fine, i fixed an exhaust leak that i have had for like 3 or 4 months now and it seemed to have fixed the bogging down. ill drive it again later to make sure. My dad has some sealer type stuff that he wants me to put on the plug and plug it in to see if it will help. whcih i highly doubt. But its worth a try. And they still doesnt fix my vtec issue. Im going to go to a junkyard tomorrow and get another vtec solenoid and vss to see if that will fix it all.
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I dont like to flame but your post is retarded and has NO validity. B series do not require 93 octane and yes im looking at my owners manual for my 99si and no where does it say use premium fuel. It is a waste of money on stock block unless your running high compression or turbo setup.

Please provide some kind of info that would back up your statement or please stop posting such nonsense where people are trying to learn the RIGHT things
lol my buddy has a 2000 si coupe and specifically in the manual it says "93 octane. warning - using any less rating gas may cause knocking and unusual engine behavior". its not like it gets a hole section to itself. The number is usually just listed and then the warning at the bottom. I've seen it, but w/e, keep putting the wrong fuel in I don't give a ****.

"Im going to go to a junkyard tomorrow and get another vtec solenoid and vss to see if that will fix it all."

yeah, slow steps my friend slow steps. sucks but hey, once it starts working its a blast
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lol my buddy has a 2000 si coupe and specifically in the manual it says "93 octane. warning - using any less rating gas may cause knocking and unusual engine behavior". its not like it gets a hole section to itself. The number is usually just listed and then the warning at the bottom. I've seen it, but w/e, keep putting the wrong fuel in I don't give a ****.

"Im going to go to a junkyard tomorrow and get another vtec solenoid and vss to see if that will fix it all."

yeah, slow steps my friend slow steps. sucks but hey, once it starts working its a blast
93 octane doesnt belong in my gas tank. Its a fairly stock d16y8. But i tried putting dielectric grease on the plug and it didnt seem to help at all either. So i guess im done trying till i can go get the parts. But i drove it again and still no bogging in any gears.
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93 octane doesnt belong in my gas tank. Its a fairly stock d16y8. But i tried putting dielectric grease on the plug and it didnt seem to help at all either. So i guess im done trying till i can go get the parts. But i drove it again and still no bogging in any gears.
yeah, i saw you put that you had a d16y8, i just posted again cuz that dude is seriously going to ruin is b series (or h/f/k) w/e he has.

i hope you can catch whats wrong though, pretty crazy stuff lol.
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Originally Posted by Del Namco Solo
yeah, i saw you put that you had a d16y8, i just posted again cuz that dude is seriously going to ruin is b series (or h/f/k) w/e he has.

i hope you can catch whats wrong though, pretty crazy stuff lol.
Me and you both sister! Lol.
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Will replacing the vss fix the vtec not kicking in? IT doesnt bogg down at all anymore. but if the vss will fix it then im not gonna get a vtec solenoid.
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Of course none of the local junkyards around here have a vss. I found eg's that have them, but they are different. Fckin sucks!
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any obd2 vss should work, b and d series.

If your speedometer is reading fine then your good, have you tried another known good distributor?
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Originally Posted by Hanmin
any obd2 vss should work, b and d series.

If your speedometer is reading fine then your good, have you tried another known good distributor?
The speedo doesnt even work. Ill try to find another vss today. Dizzy is good. I replaced the cap, button, wires, and plugs about 3 months ago.
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The speedo doesnt even work. Ill try to find another vss today. Dizzy is good. I replaced the cap, button, wires, and plugs about 3 months ago.
ues changing ur vss will make ur vtec work... b and d series are interchangeable.. yes the gears are different but u can put the b series shaft into the d series vss housing.. just unclip the pin and teh shaft will fall out same for both..one might have 2 pins though.. it work i did to one of my buddy
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Originally Posted by ricky00
ues changing ur vss will make ur vtec work... b and d series are interchangeable.. yes the gears are different but u can put the b series shaft into the d series vss housing.. just unclip the pin and teh shaft will fall out same for both..one might have 2 pins though.. it work i did to one of my buddy
If putting a b series vss in requires putting the b series axles in. Then ill keep trying to find a d series one. I dont have the money for more axles. But i know a 92-95 civic lx/dx vss has 2 bolts on it and it wont mate up to mine, which has only one bolt. So it has to be a 92-95 civic ex/si or a 96-00 civic vss. Please correct me if im wrong.
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Originally Posted by ej8ster96
If putting a b series vss in requires putting the b series axles in. Then ill keep trying to find a d series one. I dont have the money for more axles. But i know a 92-95 civic lx/dx vss has 2 bolts on it and it wont mate up to mine, which has only one bolt. So it has to be a 92-95 civic ex/si or a 96-00 civic vss. Please correct me if im wrong.
****, i thought you had it bad, yesterday i spun a bearing, all you can hear now is "TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP".... sucks. i guess that is what you get when you take a stock z6 with I/H/E to the track and floor the **** out of it, then daily drive 80-100 down the highway, blah humbug.

Strange, you have a Y8 and I though it was OBD1.... pretty sure using OBD2 sensors are a no no (considering you only match D with D and B with B, like switching parts between a D16z6 and a D16y8 or a b16 with a b18, that sort of thing.) I'd say try the ex/si or 96-00, couldn't hurt, especially if they ain't THAT expensive (compared to axles )
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****, i thought you had it bad, yesterday i spun a bearing, all you can hear now is "TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP".... sucks. i guess that is what you get when you take a stock z6 with I/H/E to the track and floor the **** out of it, then daily drive 80-100 down the highway, blah humbug.

Strange, you have a Y8 and I though it was OBD1.... pretty sure using OBD2 sensors are a no no (considering you only match D with D and B with B, like switching parts between a D16z6 and a D16y8 or a b16 with a b18, that sort of thing.) I'd say try the ex/si or 96-00, couldn't hurt, especially if they ain't THAT expensive (compared to axles )
Y8 is OBD2A for my 96. But the sensor will be free. so no worries on the cost!
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^He didn't mean switching tranny axles on the car bro. He meant that you need to switch the toothed gear on the VSS. Find a working B series VSS and swap the shaft and gear. That's why he said it's only one of two clips and it pops out.
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Originally Posted by SpecialBrownie
^He didn't mean switching tranny axles on the car bro. He meant that you need to switch the toothed gear on the VSS. Find a working B series VSS and swap the shaft and gear. That's why he said it's only one of two clips and it pops out.
Ooooh. Sorry got a little confused.
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Vtec wont engage if your Speedometer isn't working atleast in my experiances.
Fix that first, and then see.
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That's my plan tomorrow.
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Ok, so im going to pick up a new vss tomorrow. But the weird thing is, ever since my last post, the current vss didnt work at all, today it started to work, kinda. Then it started to work just fine, speed was almost accurant but the needle would kinda twitch. When i let off the gas it was dead on no twitching at all. Acted like nothin was wrong, but *** soon as i would touch the gas it would start twitching again. Shortly after all of that it just started to junp around all over the place and every now and then it would go to the correct speed and stay there. Vtec worked a few times. Made me happy! But can someone explain to me why the speedo would go nuts bouncin all over the place( i could be doin 45 and it would start jumpin to 150) to not workin at all, then to kinda workin back to normal, then back to not workin at all. When its jumpin all over the place, the car seems to hesitate alot in 5th. Almost likes it bogging down. Help out my confusion please?
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make sure that the vss is pushed all the way into the transmission. i have an electronic vss in my car (for the reccord the vss is out of an obd2 civic sedan, it ran fine on my obd0 set up for a while, and now runs great on my obd1 converted hatch) and when i first got my swap running it wasnt pushed in all the way and my speedo would jump all around and not work randomly
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Quick question but, did you check for blown fuses? You might want to do a quick resistance check on your old vss and your wiring for your vss and for your vtec noid. Could be a sensor but check your voltages and your resistances, all honda's use a 5v ref signal for sensors.

Not sure what kind of resistance the sensor looks for, but depending on voltage coming out of your sensors determines weather your vtec and your speedo will work or not.

Also did you check all your grounds for good connections, make sure they are clean and corrosion free. You might have knocked a ground loose over that big bump, the important grounds are, one on the water jacket/tstat housing where your injectors vtec noid and distributor also ground. Second one is from the transmission to the frame and then from the valve cover to the frame and from the neg battery cable to the chassis on the strut tower passenger side. Check all of them for good grounds before you keep part slapping this car.

Good luck on the issue.
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Originally Posted by DCRB
make sure that the vss is pushed all the way into the transmission. i have an electronic vss in my car (for the reccord the vss is out of an obd2 civic sedan, it ran fine on my obd0 set up for a while, and now runs great on my obd1 converted hatch) and when i first got my swap running it wasnt pushed in all the way and my speedo would jump all around and not work randomly
Its pushed down all the way. Thats for sure!

Originally Posted by MIsterE533
Quick question but, did you check for blown fuses? You might want to do a quick resistance check on your old vss and your wiring for your vss and for your vtec noid. Could be a sensor but check your voltages and your resistances, all honda's use a 5v ref signal for sensors.

Not sure what kind of resistance the sensor looks for, but depending on voltage coming out of your sensors determines weather your vtec and your speedo will work or not.

Also did you check all your grounds for good connections, make sure they are clean and corrosion free. You might have knocked a ground loose over that big bump, the important grounds are, one on the water jacket/tstat housing where your injectors vtec noid and distributor also ground. Second one is from the transmission to the frame and then from the valve cover to the frame and from the neg battery cable to the chassis on the strut tower passenger side. Check all of them for good grounds before you keep part slapping this car.

Good luck on the issue.
All grounds are good. But right after i hit that big bump, i drove threw a deep puddle( didnt think it was a foot deep) thats when it might have quit workin. And that was not quick question, that was a long list of questions.
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Lol, so be it, and that large puddle might have put quite a bit of water in things, you could have hydro locked the motor and broken something is what it sounds like or you have water in your harness and a short now, i'd take a test light and see if you have power to everything in your fuse block on both sides, and figure out what circuit your vtec is on for the fuse block and make sure you have 12v and a good ground on that circuit.

You neglected to mention the large foot deep puddle silly goose. I'll be of as much help as I can be here. Get out your volt meter a wiring diagram and have fun lol.
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I will when i get back in town.
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