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Old 10-02-2003, 05:09 PM
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Alright a friend of mine was tellin me to try shifting without letting go of the gas and said it'd keep the rev's up higher than letting go and shifting normally. I was pretty decent before and now i tried w/o releasing the gas and it seems to shift alot faster for some reason.

Can anyone tell me the pro's and con's of shifting like this?
Old 10-02-2003, 05:16 PM
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Sometimes when i cruise im soft on the gas so i dont need to take my foot off. But while your racing better hope your quick at shifting or youll hit that rev. limiter.
Old 10-02-2003, 05:20 PM
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just take your foot off the gas...if you can shift very fast then i dont see how it would make a difference
Old 10-02-2003, 05:22 PM
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thats a really good way to burn your clutch a lot faster
Old 10-02-2003, 05:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats a really good way to burn your clutch a lot faster</TD></TR></TABLE>

how so?
Old 10-02-2003, 05:24 PM
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lol do that if you like replacing clutches once every 2 months..........

Shifting without releasing gas = worns out clutch

esay as that.
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As long as you arent granny shifting you should be alright letting off the gas.
Old 10-02-2003, 05:50 PM
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Isnt shifting without releasing the gas called powershifting. I know a couple people that do this but they have some pretty well built cars and go through clutches like nothing.
Old 10-02-2003, 06:48 PM
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I heard of it being called double clutching. It has its own advantages and disadvantages during a race. i.e. ruining the clutch
Old 10-02-2003, 06:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP-Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I heard of it being called double clutching. It has its own advantages and disadvantages during a race. i.e. ruining the clutch </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's not double clutching. double clutching for example is when you go from 3rd into neutral then from neutral into 4th
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except you don't need to double clutch in a upshift.....and don't need to double clutch at all in our cars......syncros
Old 10-02-2003, 07:05 PM
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what i do is let go of the gas about half... if u power shift it would **** up the gears real fast. especially when u miss or grind..my opinion is too much stress on the syncros..
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just do it all in one really quick motion...

clutch in- foot off gas - shift - clutch out - foot on gas
Old 10-02-2003, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Shifting without releasing gas? (nY's FiNeSt)

don't do this if you don't like replacing your clutch all the time.
Old 10-02-2003, 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dunkd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just do it all in one really quick motion...

clutch in- foot off gas - shift - clutch out - foot on gas</TD></TR></TABLE>

So thats how you shift a manual.....

Go ahead shift without letting off the gas....you personally can let us know how long it takes for your clutch to go...
Old 10-02-2003, 07:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eyewitness &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So thats how you shift a manual.....

Go ahead shift without letting off the gas....you personally can let us know how long it takes for your clutch to go...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think i'll pass, i only did it a few times tonight thank god
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nY's FiNeSt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i think i'll pass, i only did it a few times tonight thank god</TD></TR></TABLE>

Glad you came to your senses.
Old 10-02-2003, 07:35 PM
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its called speed shifting lol saw it on tv. u can do it if u have like a hondata with the launch control option.
Old 10-02-2003, 07:55 PM
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i used to shft like that till broke the shiftlinkage that is inside the tranny forgot the piece but it cost me 500 to fix it
Old 10-02-2003, 07:57 PM
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its called open throttle shifting actually and ya you can use it using the hondata but NOT w/ the launch control, instead w/ their thing that limits the rev to about 6grand so you dont bounce off the limiter at the top of the gear
Old 10-02-2003, 08:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gen 5 hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i used to shft like that till broke the shiftlinkage that is inside the tranny forgot the piece but it cost me 500 to fix it
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this same thing just happened to a friend of mine... its apart in his driveway right now, he's putting the new part in tomorrow. nothing big though.
Old 10-03-2003, 02:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95CivicVTEk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol do that if you like replacing clutches once every 2 months..........

Shifting without releasing gas = worns out clutch

esay as that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Lets see.........

7 years of Civic ownage, 3 seasons of autox, 800+ 1/4 mile passes, 100,000 miles under my ownership of DAILY beating. Not to mention the 30 bottles of nitrous.

One stock clutch and one used Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch.

I DEFINE driveline abuse!
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[QUOTE=EBP-Si]
I heard of it being called double clutching. It has its own advantages and disadvantages during a race. i.e. ruining the clutch <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

[QUOTE=nY's FiNeSt]
that's not double clutching. double clutching for example is when you go from 3rd into neutral then from neutral into 4th</TD></TR></TABLE>

[QUOTE=Dan GSR]
except you don't need to double clutch in a upshift.....and don't need to double clutch at all in our cars......syncros[QUOTE]

OMFG its funny when people talk about things the dont know about. to clear it up double clutching is for shifting from a higher gear to a lower gear. It consists of puching the clutch and dropping to neutral then releasing the clutch tapping the gas to match rps of the lower gear with your flywheel/crank, clutch in again and go into the lower gear and clutch out. (pushing the clutch 2 times hence double clutching) And the whole point is to make the shift from a higher to lower gear smooth and not bog. sure syncros do this for you but they still put a load on the tranny which is why if you just slap it into the lower gear your whole car lurches/bogs not to mention its bad on the syncros.
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When i was learning to drive about 2 years ago my driving instructer said that his clutch cable snapped once and he double de clutched to get home, I always thought wtf was he on about, his clutch would have been engaged the entire way home, I can see how you could downshift without using the clutch but no how you could upshift.. anyone got any ideas, somehow I think he was lying..
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oh yeah saw a thread on here today with this video

http://www.videobookmark.net/H...m.mpg

a good example of power shifting (and where you should do it)...



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