Shift Linkage problem, or grinds second! little help.
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Shift Linkage problem, or grinds second! little help.
Ive been having trouble shifting into Second gear. it is a gsr tranny and i bought it from a trustworthy person and it was good in previous car.
The problem is that everytime i shift into second it grinds and once its in second it dosent pop out or anything. Every other gear 3 4 5 are good no problems. the shift linkage sits alittle off, like when its in neutral its off to the left and not at the center of the boot.
do you think it could be my linkage making it not go into second? as i drive off in first and i push the clutch down and wait 2 seconds before shifting then it lets me go into second. but if i downshift into second it grinds also.
i recently replaced my slave cylinder, and still have the same problem.
what do you guys think the problem could be?
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The problem is that everytime i shift into second it grinds and once its in second it dosent pop out or anything. Every other gear 3 4 5 are good no problems. the shift linkage sits alittle off, like when its in neutral its off to the left and not at the center of the boot.
do you think it could be my linkage making it not go into second? as i drive off in first and i push the clutch down and wait 2 seconds before shifting then it lets me go into second. but if i downshift into second it grinds also.
i recently replaced my slave cylinder, and still have the same problem.
what do you guys think the problem could be?
Thanks for anyhelp
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Try rev-matching the gear when you downshift. If it shifts 3rd to 2nd smoothly when you match the revolution, you can bet that transmission needed work before you put it in.
And don't bump your thread after less than an hour. That's not fair to others who need help, too.
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Re: Shift Linkage problem, or grinds second! little help.
i just wanted to see what ppl thought before i got linkage and this and that and find out its somthing else, you get me.
thanks though for advise
and about bumping i did wait ahwile, ah i see now i was 10 minutes off lol i know how it is. just lost my other user name so had to make somthing new.
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Re: Shift Linkage problem, or grinds second! little help.
i agree it sounds like the synchros in the tranny mine does it in 2nd an 3rd but its about to get a ls tranny this weekend
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this sounds like synchros, why would the master cylinder fix it that doesn't make sense for that to be it if it is only doing it in second. Does shifting slowly like trying to feel your way into the gear work.
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Re: Shift Linkage problem, or grinds second! little help.
yes i said if i take my time it shifts fine. and the shift linkage is off by over 2 inchs to the left. does anyone think it could be the linkage that is causes the issue??
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sounds like the synchros. You could try messing with your linkage, but if you're using the right linkage and it's not bent, then that's not going to cause the problem.
Try double-clutching on a low RPM shift. When going from first to second, clutch in, neutral, clutch out, clutch in, shift to second. If the grind goes away then it's your synchros. Do it at low RPM because if you're not careful, a double clutch will allow you to shift into the wrong gear well above redline and trash your engine/transmission.
Mine grinds third even on a rev match, but it doesn't EVER grind on a double clutch. I'm really hoping I'll get the cash to open the tranny and fix it this summer.
Try double-clutching on a low RPM shift. When going from first to second, clutch in, neutral, clutch out, clutch in, shift to second. If the grind goes away then it's your synchros. Do it at low RPM because if you're not careful, a double clutch will allow you to shift into the wrong gear well above redline and trash your engine/transmission.
Mine grinds third even on a rev match, but it doesn't EVER grind on a double clutch. I'm really hoping I'll get the cash to open the tranny and fix it this summer.
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Re: Shift Linkage problem, or grinds second! little help.
sounds like the synchros. You could try messing with your linkage, but if you're using the right linkage and it's not bent, then that's not going to cause the problem.
Try double-clutching on a low RPM shift. When going from first to second, clutch in, neutral, clutch out, clutch in, shift to second. If the grind goes away then it's your synchros. Do it at low RPM because if you're not careful, a double clutch will allow you to shift into the wrong gear well above redline and trash your engine/transmission.
Mine grinds third even on a rev match, but it doesn't EVER grind on a double clutch. I'm really hoping I'll get the cash to open the tranny and fix it this summer.
Try double-clutching on a low RPM shift. When going from first to second, clutch in, neutral, clutch out, clutch in, shift to second. If the grind goes away then it's your synchros. Do it at low RPM because if you're not careful, a double clutch will allow you to shift into the wrong gear well above redline and trash your engine/transmission.
Mine grinds third even on a rev match, but it doesn't EVER grind on a double clutch. I'm really hoping I'll get the cash to open the tranny and fix it this summer.
that is what im thinking but it could be the tranny who knows. i am trying to get a hold of a new linkage as we speak to test this theory out but i just wanted to see what ppl thought.
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Re: Shift Linkage problem, or grinds second! little help.
i have the same exact problem.
mine pops out of 2nd though, so i would say that the tranny is toast.
mine pops out of 2nd though, so i would say that the tranny is toast.
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If you keep grinding that gear over and over trying to figure out why, your gear will soon begin to pop out, too. I mean, what do you think that grinding noise is...?
That's why everyone is telling you its the synchros.
Nope. It sounds like you don't want to accept the reality you are going to need to open up that transmission. Let us know if replacing the linkage does anything...but I wouldn't bother with the master cylinder, personally.
Originally Posted by SEVEIHT KCUF
as soon as i goes in its as if it never had a problem.
Originally Posted by SEVEIHT KCUF
im replacing the linkage soon, anybudy think its the master cylinder??
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Its your synchros....The higher that you get in RPMs the faster everything spins, the higher the weight load on EVERYTHING. this is why when you wait 2 or 3 seconds and let the rpms go down,you can get it into gear. There is less load on the trans when attempting to change gears. Im sure its not easy breezy to put it in when you do that either, its still a little tough. ITS NOT THE MASTER CYLINDER...if you werent getting the right amount of fluids or pressure it would happen on all gears.
Your synchro's are built in sets. You can not buy just a 2nd gear synchro. they come 1-2,3-4,5-R.
You can TRY Synchro-Mesh, i believe its made by GM. Some people swear by it, some say it does nothing. Results are PURELY on a case by case basis. It sounds like your beyond a easy fix. My suggestion would be to take apart that tranny.
Your synchro's are built in sets. You can not buy just a 2nd gear synchro. they come 1-2,3-4,5-R.
You can TRY Synchro-Mesh, i believe its made by GM. Some people swear by it, some say it does nothing. Results are PURELY on a case by case basis. It sounds like your beyond a easy fix. My suggestion would be to take apart that tranny.
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Seveiht.....fix the linkage, if that dont work then its the syncros as everyone said.....Master cylinder has no problem if all other gears are good.
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Its your synchros....The higher that you get in RPMs the faster everything spins, the higher the weight load on EVERYTHING. this is why when you wait 2 or 3 seconds and let the rpms go down,you can get it into gear. There is less load on the trans when attempting to change gears. Im sure its not easy breezy to put it in when you do that either, its still a little tough. ITS NOT THE MASTER CYLINDER...if you werent getting the right amount of fluids or pressure it would happen on all gears.
Your synchro's are built in sets. You can not buy just a 2nd gear synchro. they come 1-2,3-4,5-R.
You can TRY Synchro-Mesh, i believe its made by GM. Some people swear by it, some say it does nothing. Results are PURELY on a case by case basis. It sounds like your beyond a easy fix. My suggestion would be to take apart that tranny.
Your synchro's are built in sets. You can not buy just a 2nd gear synchro. they come 1-2,3-4,5-R.
You can TRY Synchro-Mesh, i believe its made by GM. Some people swear by it, some say it does nothing. Results are PURELY on a case by case basis. It sounds like your beyond a easy fix. My suggestion would be to take apart that tranny.
yea ima try the linkage if it dont work ill just build the tranny no bigy. just trying to get some ideas to see if i can get a quick fix.
i dont mind getting carbon coated syncros and quaife lsd installed on my tranny
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