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Old 09-11-2008, 07:07 AM
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Hey guys I'm new the the d series, I drove a prelude with an h22a4 so I mostly know about that.

So, Anyway to my question

I bought a 95 2dr civic and I plan on building the bottom endof the motor. Do I need to sleeve this motor like the H22 to run forged pistons? And can you give me some suggestions on parts, I plan on running a 03 VW passat 1.8t turbo on this setup. Runs about 11.5psi and can push up to 15 if done right. Any suggestions as to what parts I should get to build the bottom end as I'm not familiar with these motors. Thanks.

I also plan on building the head later down the road. So I'll take part suggestions for that as well.

I know I can swap for more power but, its mostly a just for fun project. So no swap suggestions please.

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If your planning on running as much as 15lbs you can get away with forged rods and pistons, but thats only if you have the car tuned. Or you can just run a completely stock engine, a boost controller and run 10 lbs with a good tune
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Theres lots of options here. A stock motor can take 220-230 with a good tune, PSI doesnt matter. YOu can do the eagle/vitara setup or the FJT custom length rods/vitara(thats what id do) or Forged pistons and rods. Depends on what you want to spend
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Money is not an object.

And no one answered my main questions, Does this motor need to be sleeved like the h22a4 does?

And please....I KNOW the motor will need to be tuned. Just info on what I should put in it, and links please. I'm looking for piston size, arm size, type and brand valves, I already know I'm putting in a skunk stage 1 cam profile and asjustable cam sprocket, what company sprocket should I use...ect ect. Any info is appreciated.

What I intend on putting in and what I need as far as suggestions for parts (links perfered):

Fuel pump
Injectors
fuel rail
cam
adj cam sprocket
valves/ springs/ retainers
pistons
rods
lightened fly wheel
Clutch
A/C removal kit(if they are available for this car)
backseat roll cage bolt in
and complete suspension upgrade

I'm keeping power steering and ABS

I need transmission suggestions, I've heard the d16 tranny sucks, so any good replacements? Where can they be found and do I need to buy a specific clutch towards that tranny as opposed to using a d16 tranny clutch?
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Fuel pump= walbro 255
Injectors= dsm 450s or rc
fuel rail= stock
cam=stockadj cam sprocket= stock
valves/ springs/ retainers=stock
pistons=wiseco
rods=golden eagle
lightened fly wheel=stockClutch=competition clutchA/C removal kit(if they are available for this car)=simple as unscrewing the bolts and removing no kit is neededbackseat roll cage bolt in
and complete suspension upgrade=stock or modifry.com for a package
I need transmission suggestions, I've heard the d16 tranny sucks, so any good replacements? Where can they be found and do I need to buy a specific clutch towards that tranny as opposed to using a d16 tranny clutch? = stock tranny w/ upgraded clutch (competition clutch) or D to B tranny kit

I wouldnt sleeve the block unless you go over 15lbs. full race had a sohc with no sleeves doing over 400hp i believe
I recommend the link below and taking a look at what other people are doing.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1643764


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the limits of a d are rarely ever reached...a personal friend of mine is using a stock d16block with just a block guard je pistons eagle rods and the oil pump shimmed....this is just the bottom end there is to much to list about his car...but the fun started when we got it tuned and he made 501 whp with a stock sleeved d16z6 running 30-32 psi its a 10 sec car.....to come to think of it....the car is [freak]ing nasty and i have seen this thing outrun streetbikes and it eats domestics alive......he uses a sc61 turbo with a log manifold and his down pipe is max 18" long...i am not bullshitting when i say this but d-series motors (the bastard motors of honda) can do some serious damage and can definatley surprise a lot of people...here is somthing else you might not believe but he is still using the stock axles that came in his crx from the factory he has never had to replace them....oh and a stock trans...but we have been through a couple of those....this car is drag raced every weekend
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Doesn't have to be resleeved long as its not scared up, but depends how far your going with it,, im building one and i didnt sleeve it 8.8:1comp eagle rods, je pistons, but u do have to notch the bottom of the cylinder walls and the girdle for the rod bolts to clear.You will want to get atleast new stock head studs but id go with arp head studs thats what i did anyways. And dont for get a good mls head gasket.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turkeyslow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fuel pump= walbro 255
Injectors= dsm 450s or rc
fuel rail= stock
cam=stockadj cam sprocket= stock
valves/ springs/ retainers=stock
pistons=wiseco
rods=golden eagle
lightened fly wheel=stockClutch=competition clutchA/C removal kit(if they are available for this car)=simple as unscrewing the bolts and removing no kit is neededbackseat roll cage bolt in
and complete suspension upgrade=stock or modifry.com for a package
I need transmission suggestions, I've heard the d16 tranny sucks, so any good replacements? Where can they be found and do I need to buy a specific clutch towards that tranny as opposed to using a d16 tranny clutch? = stock tranny w/ upgraded clutch (competition clutch) or D to B tranny kit

I wouldnt sleeve the block unless you go over 15lbs. full race had a sohc with no sleeves doing over 400hp i believe
I recommend the link below and taking a look at what other people are doing.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1643764


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dude wtf are you talking about. i know people that DD D's with 20+psi on stock sleeves. An golden eagle doesnt make D rods, just eagle and a d2b kit? Theres no such thing, Rota had his custom made and that isnt need till you over the 400hp mark which he wont be. The D16 trany does not suck, why do you think there are F/H2D kits. They take about 400hp, but id recommend getting an OBX lsd installed
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Most of my post was copied from the original poster. I didn't say d series trannies suck, he did, he also said money was not a object and it seems like he wants a baller set up so why couldnt he also get a b to d set up? Why couldnt he get custom golden eagle rods? Why can't he search and find this basic information for himself? While I may not know the answer to these questions, I do my best to help.
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Golden eagle doesnt even make rods so that would be a little hard to do. For the best turbo D info either go to turbod16 or d-series.org
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ok here's what i did.

D16y8 block, stock oil pump not even shimmed
eagle rods, vitara pistons, supertech block guard
walbro 255lph pump, RC1000 injectors(overkill), stock FPR&rail
stock head with cam gear(zeroed out so it doesn't need it)
ARP headstuds with OEM thickness head gasket
MSD cap and blaster coil BKR7E plugs gapped at .025, motorola 2.5bar map
Ebay turbo kit with REAL Blitz BOV, T3/T4 turbo and 2.5" exhaust.

I'm currently spiking 19psi with my setup and that's due to cheap parts, I just purchased some good stuff so i'm shooting for 20-22 psi holding pressure

I have a few other mods done but nothing major that you would need, anyhow with a VW 1.8T turbo, you should be able to push 11.5 psi (since that's all the stock map sensor will take) because these are small turbos and do not have the capability to make big loads of power, unlike my .57 trim T04E which will probably make the same amount of power on 7-8psi

My advice is go with a stock motor for now, put some ARP headstuds in, a fuel pump and some injectors and hit 10-11 psi on the VW turbo, and as far as D series trannies being bad depends on the driver.

If your a driver that has an Unsprung 6puck clutch and powershift all the time, then yeah a D series tranny is going to break as well as any other tranny, it's all in how you treat your car, I've been running my stock D series tranny with almost 97000 original miles on boost for 2 years now with a stage 3 clutch and have not had a problem
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