TwoFacedCustoms

I don't agree with the whole tapout sticker because I have friends that fight and I don't think any of them have tapout stickers on their car but I know a million people that have never even been in a gym that have them all over everything.

In his defense...it's like alot of other security procedures like we were talking about earlier...try to make your car less marketable to steal than the next guy. He probably got the stickers when he bought his glock or a case or something for free, even if he didn't he might've spent a dollar or two on them...and if ONE SINGLE THEIF looks at the sticker and says "I want that shift **** but **** that I don't wanna get shot at" I say it's worth it. I wouldn't put Kimber stickers on my car...but to each their own.

Jimster480

well here in miami all the thieves got busted in 08. SO since then I haven't heard any stories about peoples cars getting stolen. There was a huge bust, they got everyone, the chop shops, all the connects, everything. Those smucks are rotting in jail now.

AGENT_47

Well the auto-locks worked then

the only thing they can do is tow it away or have enough time to blow-torch the auto locks

in that case , guys with those tools don't want civics

tougetuned_ef

hey if they smash into my car thats only worth 2 grand then i get the money for it and buy the car back from the insurance company for $150. ive done it before and will just find another shell and swap parts all day. makes no difference to me. brake checking is only to remind them that tailgating is stupid and dangerous, and shouldnt be done. it is a solid plan for me. and some, not all, people with tapout stickers are kind of doing the same thing. in the back of thier mind it makes the other person maybe think twice about do i want to get my *** beat? maybe this person does do mma and might kick my *** if he sees me messing with his car. but yeah, alot of those guys are just posers.

all i was getting at was there was no need to mock and talk **** about what i posted originally. i know your entitled to your own opinion but there was no need for that joking **** about bees in your car. i was maybe trying to help one person not get their **** stolen. i said what my tactic was and thats it. no need for silly jokes and **** talking. im gonna continue to put up signs on my garage saying whats in here is not worth your life and the same for my cars cause you know what its not. and i dont give a **** about some p.o.s. thief who steals from people who work hard for their stuff. they deserve a hollow point in their ***! maybe that big *** scar from getting shot will make them think twice next time!

NOFX

Check those posts again. I never said anything about bees. Most of the mocking wasn't even by me. Not that I disagree with the other guy, but I still didn't say all that.

You're thinking of the other guy who flamed you but you only replied to me under the assumption that I wrote them all I suppose.

tougetuned_ef

Ok your right about me quoting you wrong but still you don't have to hate on my tactics. I'm just trying to help out a fellow Honda owner that's all. I just don't see why I have to catch so much **** for it that's all.

MonstroniuM

Ya sucks to hear bro, least they didn't make away with it.

Bwill9886

I often see people reference that they will shoot, stab, beat a thief if they ever saw one trying to take their car. When I see this, I can only think "Man, they must not know what is TRULY at stake here."

Sure, firing off a gun or yelling at them sometimes does work. Hell, maybe you even feel a bit more like a man after chasing off a thief. However, I can't imagine a dumber way to potentially throw away YOUR life, another family members life, an innocent bystanders life, or your "cars life."

What if that particular thief is the type of person who really could give a damn about you yelling, or what type of weapon your carrying? I've heard some bad stories, ones where the thieves wouldn't think twice about killing some guy who stepped out to try and intimidate them. They can have weapons too you know, and they might just be better with them than you are. It can either be because they really don't care whether THEY live or die, or because they REALLY want your car, it doesn't really matter at that point.

Now granted, obviously these kind of guys won't typically go for the cheap cars, BUT my point that you may end up biting off more than you can chew still stands. Not all acts of theft are committed by one guy, and do you want to be the one to take on a crew of guys by yourself?

My advice: Play it safe, call the cops, keep them in sight, and IF POSSIBLE try to safely scare them off. I understand wanting to defend your car, as I have a pretty strong sentimental attachment to mine (though I'm pretty sure NOFX has me beat). However, I'm not putting my life on the line for a mostly material possession. What's better, living to see your car again/enjoying a new car, or dying and letting them possibly get away with it?

Interesting, I'd be worried about who will be replacing them. At some point, someone will.

CrAzE191st

that insurance stuff is useful information

nilleo

^probably works for an insurance company

NOFX

True, true, true.

I'm sure my dad would be pissed as hell if I died because of a f***ing car. Doesn't matter if it's a Yenko. Doesn't matter if it's a race Mercedes. Doesn't matter if it's a Bugatti. And here we are talking about Hondas. Ten to twenty year old productions Civics‽ Seriously‽

It's not worth your life. You might think you're a great shot, but I sure as hell wouldn't risk my life on it over a car.

Other people? Sure. But this is a f***ing car.

NOFX

As far as buying cars back from insurance after they've been totaled:

Some states you can retitle a car later on down the road. Not all though. So for some of those cars you might either have a totaled or rebuilt title or you might need to just part the car out (which could be worth it). I'd check into local laws before you buy any car back like that.

The cars aren't all going to go for $150. It depends on the appraised value of the car, damage to the car, location and the insurance company.

A car with a tweaked frame, front end all caved in, engine pushed back, etc. might not be worth a grand, for example. If you look at it and see a lot of frame rail damage, mount damage, etc. it's probably not worth a rebuild and parting a car out is more work than you think. Before you buy back a car to part, you might want to make a list of parts that are still good enough to sell (the big/valuable stuff at least) and give rough prices to it all to figure out if this is worth your time.

Even once you remove everything you can, a lot of stock parts just plain won't sell anytime soon. Lots of people will want parts shipped out, which is more time and effort. Almost everyone will lowball you, no matter the price you set on the parts. Lots of text messages, lots of private messages, lots of emails...

And then at the end you're stuck with a frame to dispose of. Both times we did this we've ended up selling the engine in the chassis after removing the parts we could sell easily. It just wasn't worth our time to pull the engines, plus this made it so we didn't have to have any strangers come to our house.

When we sell or buy parts we never have anyone come to our house. We can make arrangements and meet up somewhere. No one just buying parts off you needs to know where you live.

em1effekt

my 99 si got stolen..i use to box it in wid my dad and brothers car
but one day it was street cleaning so i couldnt box it in...and thats when they took it
i had alarm...that clutch lock on my break
and the steering wheel lock...
they bent my pedals to take the clutch lock off and i dont know how they got through the rest..
found it a week later stripped

point is..if thief really wants it..thief will really get it...
its getting out of hand....

take care of your si good luck

94EG8

This is very true. I've still got most of a '95 Si coupe that I bought to part out 4 months ago.

Bwill9886

I remember seeing your thread, was VERY disheartening to see what happened to your Civic. Hope she stays in your hands from now on.

I wouldn't necessarily say "If they really want it, they will take it," I would state that "If they really want it, they will TRY to take it." Not all thieves are created equal. If a amateur tried to take your car with all that security, I really doubt they would have succeeded. Hell, whoever took it had the patience and intelligence to WAIT until it could be moved AND then knew how to take care of all your security. They were good, and that's why they could take your car.

Just because someone wants what you got, doesn't mean they have the means to take it. This is why it is VERY important to have as many measures of security as you can to A) Deter potential thieves, and B) Make anyone who thinks they have the skills REALLY work for it. I'm sure you agree with me on that at least.

I have no doubt that if a really experienced car thief wants your car, there's probably a good chance they will get it. But anyone who thinks that that means there is no point to security is just being lazy/giving up hope.

77777

someone needs to really make an effort to do some sort of a sting, and not just talk about it like i am LMAO.

i havnt had a problem, my car isnt really that cool but i know some douche would still steal it.
i do the garage, boxed in with several other cars, one that doesnt run and the brakes are seized up so you need at least 2 people 2 push it haha...in addition to all the security which i wont bother listing, im sure a few people overlook this place as a potential security leak. best of all i got a job now where i dont have to drive it to work at all. the only other place i have worked since owning this civic was gated with barbed wire fence, even that didnt help me rest easy. my neighborhood is pretty good though, as long as no one follows me home i feel safe having it in my garage. only parked it on the street 2 nights, right under my window, it was hot as hell but i turned off my fan and ac so i would hopefully hear anything that happened and have a good clear shot at the guy!

Zen Chameleon

Gun carry laws are different from state to state also. The only one I can think of that will allow you to fire over personal property is Texas, I'm sure there are others. Here IIRC, if your life isn't directly in danger (someone pointing a gun at you with the intent to shoot) then youre screwed. IMHO, letting thieves know you carry is like letting them know what security is on your car, they will simply know what "tools" to bring to take what they want. Nobody ever sees my radio faceplate or my piece if I'm not in the car, it's that simple. It's a mentality thing, watch the news, do you think crackheaded drugged up thieves care about life in genneral? let alone yours? Uhmm no. The other thieves are more like "pros", they concider it as thier livelyhood...they know the risks to thier "Job" and will do "what ever" it takes to complete the task at hand. I think the third group are often someone close to you, pay attention to your suroundings, the over curious neighbor, the shady friend, the cracker that says they have some seats that would look real nice for the low low.
OP you did good to notice something happened, little details are overlooked by most. I think thieves will kinda test the waters maybe a few times before they dive in. Always keep them guessing. Don't do the same thing all of the time, if you look like your going out of your way to hide something or in some cases show something you will draw attention. Just my lil 1/2 cents.

Good Luck, and keep the Honda

MonstroniuM

Bro, that's incredible. I've had someone walk away with my EJ8 because he sold it to me, came back two weeks later with the second remote, unlocked and rode out. Two weeks later they drag it back to me finger printed up and I started the painful process of re-building lol.

I feel your pain. Like I said to the OP, least they didn't make away with it.

Bwill9886

Sorry to hear about that man, at least you got it back though.

This is why you have to be careful buying a car with an alarm/keyless entry already in it. If the owner doesn't have all the remotes, definitely ask them about it. If you have ANY doubts, you should try and disable the system (even though that option is sometimes easier said than done) until you either have a new one or are sure nobody wants it back for free.

Si GUY99

wow if someone tells you they have a "shitty job" whats not to say that they didn't get an inheritance of some kind that they don't want to tell everyone about, or found a good deal by trading parts. Also i've never had a broken alarm, p.o.s. one yes but not broken and if ur alarm goes off tooo much turn down the sensitivity slightly

NOFX

It really depends.

One or a few parts could be from good trades. When you see everything on the car is top end but they're making minimum wage then that might raise some red flags.

If they go from buying eBay **** to buying Mugen overnight, that might raise some red flags (understandably imo).

It doesn't mean they're thieves either though. There could be some other illicit activity going on. Drug dealing, for example.

As for the broken alarm on my daily, it doesn't go off too often. The remote doesn't work. Battery is fine. Remote is broken as far as I can tell. I never do anything with the alarm or the remote at all usually. The only time I've ever messed with the remote since I got the car was when my battery died, I replaced it and then the alarm wouldn't stop going off and I couldn't start my car.

It's not too sensitive. It's just plain broken. It's probably old and the previous owner knew nothing about cars so I'm sure it's ghetto rigged.

canadaek

my buddy moved to the city only had his car out like twice and they took it from his locked garage with a dead battery in the middle of the day nobody saw anything and it's never been found not even the shell .

TwoFacedCustoms

They don't have to tell you...you may just see them at burger king every time you go through the drive through...but like NOFX said...it may not mean they're thieves but it will raise some red flags...and be a sign of other shady activity you might personally want to stay away from.

Just a tip for people to look out for...little bit of helpful advice.

NOFX

Imo it's good to be a little on edge if you notice someone is modifying their car beyond their means (or what appears to be).

Unfortunately everyone in the world is not as honest as I'd like to hope.

You should be able to leave your car parked on the roadside overnight and not worry about anyone screwing with it. You should be able to leave your windows down at the gas station while you're filling up so you can run in and grab a drink and not worry that anyone will grab anything. You should be able to pull over and help any stranded motorist without fear that they'll rape you, rob you or try to kill you.

But people can be shitty.

AGENT_47

Hell my OEM Honda alarm broke, it was a dealer option brand new, maybe it was installed by a 3rd party but it was listed on the window sticker as part of my SI package, but that was 17+ years ago

The alarm started acting up and just stopped working


On another note I just put a sticker on my del sol that says , "why would you steal this car, it'll make people think you suck wieners"