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Old 12-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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I am parking my ek this winter because of past experiences with rust on my egs. unfortinately its outdoors. Is the ek metal a little bit better than the eg.Is my car safe from moist with a car over over it and a tarp wrapped nder it sealed on the cover w/ ductape?
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:39 PM
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i wouldnt do it....if it just sits there and theres moisture under the tarp on ur car its most likely able to rust. if i was u i would just quit being cheap if you love your car that much and put it in a storage close to your house.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:41 PM
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It's not so much that sitting outside causes the cars to rust, it's salt/additives in the road that wear away coatings.

I would leave it on a normal car cover and that's all.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:44 PM
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well i always put mine in a storage so i could cancel my insureance for the year and in the storage i know if something happens they are paying for it lol
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:46 PM
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Then you have no worries. Leave it naked in storage or put on a normal car cover if you want to avoid dust.

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How would an EK be more prone to rust than an EG? That doesn't make any sense to me, please explain.
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It doesn't matter if it's outside, just put a cover over it.

Honda rust occurs from the inside out. The main cause is driving on roads that have been hit with the sand/salt combo used to give cars traction as well as a catalyst to melt the ice (the salt). When you drive over this nasty *** combo it kicks up underneath your wheel well. Unfortunately Honda got this great idea from '92-'00 to not paint the inside of the wheel well.

Paint is more than just "for looks" - it's a protectant seal against corrosion of all sorts.

So you'll save a lot just from not driving on the salt/sandy roads kicking that crap up there to eat away at your frame for the next year. If you're going to store it, my advice:

Wait until a "nicer" day out. Go to the carwash, wash your car. Most importantly, wash the hell outta the insides of the rear wheel wells. You'll also wanna hit all the running gear (lower A frames, ball joints, etc.) with high pressure water - to get all the crap off of it you can. Then drive back, and cover it - avoid doing anything (like if you're driving on dirt, tread carefully) to kick more crap up there. Do that, park on dry pavement, cover it up with a car cover, and it'll be peachy all winter long.

PS: I'd also recommend pulling the battery for the winter and bringing it inside. If you leave it in your basement and you have an unfinished basement (cement floor), don't leave it on the floor, leave it on a 2x4 or somethign so it doesn't discharge.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPCBoyles &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How would an EK be more prone to rust than an EG? That doesn't make any sense to me, please explain.</TD></TR></TABLE>less prone homie
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:42 AM
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Is there a certain type of product you could paint the inside of the wheel well with
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ukdmegg5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there a certain type of product you could paint the inside of the wheel well with </TD></TR></TABLE>i am prolly gonna put a couple coats of anti-rust primer as soon as summer hits
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonovision &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am prolly gonna put a couple coats of anti-rust primer as soon as summer hits</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, or just paint it, either way it'll stay protected.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonovision &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">less prone homie</TD></TR></TABLE>

"less prone homie" is not a very good explaination, but thanks for trying.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:50 AM
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it is ample explanation, if the intended audience has some grasp of the english language.

apparently you are the only person in this thread that doesn't get it...so..

but anyway, like syndacate said, the wheel wells aren't protected.

the first thing i did when i got my hatch was sand down the wheel arches and spray them. also whenever i wash it i use that spray wax crap inside the wheel wells.

if you're storing it somewhere you may want to fill the car with some baking soda, or go to home depot and get some of the industrial size damp rid crap, does a great job of handling moisture.
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i thought on the ek models, honda changed the metal that the body panels were made out of to inhibit rust b/c of the problems with the eg?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPCBoyles &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

"less prone homie" is not a very good explaination, but thanks for trying.</TD></TR></TABLE>really,you must be a dumbass then?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonovision &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really,you must be a dumbass then?</TD></TR></TABLE>

So, because of your inability to give a good explaination I am a dumbass? You must like the **** then.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you leave it in your basement and you have an unfinished basement (cement floor), don't leave it on the floor, leave it on a 2x4 or somethign so it doesn't discharge.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is a myth
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:45 AM
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i drive my ej8 all winter...sometimes i go for a few days with a ton of salt on the body..but i spray it down with a pressure washer every few days and i have no rust on the car at all.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Malakai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought on the ek models, honda changed the metal that the body panels were made out of to inhibit rust b/c of the problems with the eg?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No they've been using rust inhibiting coatings on body panels since the late 80's early 90's.

...but it doesn't matter because like everyone else (with a brain) explained the rust issues usually start from the inside out from road salt.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPCBoyles &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So, because of your inability to give a good explaination I am a dumbass? You must like the **** then.</TD></TR></TABLE>What kind of explanation do you need? Do you want me to teach you how to read? The title said "Is the ek less prone?" key word being "LESS" but judging you by the maturity of your last post you must be hovering at around 12-13 years old so I guess you have an excuse to be stupid
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonovision &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of explanation do you need? Do you want me to teach you how to read? The title said "Is the ek less prone?" key word being "LESS" but judging you by the maturity of your last post you must be hovering at around 12-13 years old so I guess you have an excuse to be stupid</TD></TR></TABLE>

The topic also stated for an EXPLANATION AS TO WHY an EK could be less rust proned than an EG.

"Less prone homie" doesn't explain ****, does it?



Not to mention you're wrong anyways. Honda did nothing extra special to prep 96-00 Civics over the 92-95 Civics to prevent rust. You might see more rusted EGs simply because they're older, but give the EKs more time and they too will be as rusted as the EGs.
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Jono, you're a damn idiot.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonovision &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of explanation do you need? Do you want me to teach you how to read? The title said "Is the ek less prone?" key word being "LESS" but judging you by the maturity of your last post you must be hovering at around 12-13 years old so I guess you have an excuse to be stupid</TD></TR></TABLE>

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by homemadeturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jono, you're a damn idiot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How is jono the idiot? That other kid didn't properly read the title of the thread. He thought it said the EK was more prone to rust than an EG, when in reality the OP was asking if the EK was less prone than an EG.

SPC is the f**king moron.

Anyways, about the OP, I think Honda added vents inside the trunk of the EKs to help release moisture from behind the quarter panels. Atleast that is the only explanation I can think of for those vents...someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andoxviii &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How is jono the idiot?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess you missed the "less prone homie" reply then, huh? The OP asked is the EK was less prone, and if someone knew then explain WHY which "less prone homie" does the shittiest job of "explaining" I've ever seen.
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