spooncivic1

how in the world do I get this thing off. the engine is sitting on my garage floor. and i used an impact gun on it. and it still wont budge? any ideas how to get it off. i HAVE to get it off. i lost the woodruf key down in there somewhere

ej1 pilot

i had the same problem a couple days ago, impact wont work unless you got 400+ lt/lbs
what i did was take the ratchet, stuck it in a HUGE pipe for sort of a crazy breaker bar, got somone to hold the flywheel with 2 screwdrivers, and went at it, took about 5 seconds to break it loose

Built to Spill

Crank Pulley bolts are a bitch....

Breaker bars normally do the trick though.

spooncivic1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Art In Motion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had the same problem a couple days ago, impact wont work unless you got 400+ lt/lbs
what i did was take the ratchet, stuck it in a HUGE pipe for sort of a crazy breaker bar, got somone to hold the flywheel with 2 screwdrivers, and went at it, took about 5 seconds to break it loose</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, i'll try that

any other suggestions

Slopoke

Ha ha, I had to do this just today.
I've got the motor sitting on my garage floor, but I've got the tranny, clutch and flywheel off too, cause I'm replacing the rear main seal.
What I did was, thread two of the flywheel bolt partially into the end of the crank, then stick a big crow bar inbetween them and turn it so the other end of the crow bar is on the floor(so the crank cant turn clockwise(if your looking at it from the tranny side)), then put a 17mm on a breaker bar, stick a big pipe on the end, and then jump on that motherf*cker!! Works like a charm.

Archidictus

Here's an old hotrodder trick that I've used with much success in the past, albeit on American four and eight cylinder engines:

Attatch the biggest ratchet you have to the socket you're using and brace said ratchet's handle against some part of the car or floor that will not flex. Now, carefully bump the starter a couple times so the torque of the starter is the actuating force on the ratchet. It should bump a couple times and, if the ratchet is properly braced, break loose what you need .

Turbo E

what Archidictus said should work, I'v snapped many a socket on that bolt cuz I forgot to remove my ratchet.

use an impact socket if you are gonna try it. the starter has huge torque.

fookle

I had to do this on two bad blocks, one a y8 and one a d15b vtec.

I had the oil pans off so I stuck a steel bar thru the girdle so the crank couldnt move and went to them with a big breaker bar on one and an impact gun on the other.

i love this picture

specv5150

Make sure you have a craftsman or similar toolset that lets you take back broken sockets....I went through about 4

spooncivic1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's an old hotrodder trick that I've used with much success in the past, albeit on American four and eight cylinder engines:

Attatch the biggest ratchet you have to the socket you're using and brace said ratchet's handle against some part of the car or floor that will not flex. Now, carefully bump the starter a couple times so the torque of the starter is the actuating force on the ratchet. It should bump a couple times and, if the ratchet is properly braced, break loose what you need .</TD></TR></TABLE>

one problem, the complete swap is sitting on my garage floor...

so i'll just take the starter out tomorrow, and put some screw drivers and get a breaker bar

Snail Tuning

just hotwire it, just hook it up to your battery and it would do the same thing.

don't have to remove the starter that way

spooncivic1

good thinking

doublejz

i think the best way when you have the engine out is to just get 1/4 sheet metal (or something that won't bend), cut it in the shape of a rectangle (long enough to reach from the center of the flywheel to the case where the tranny mounts to it)and put 1 bolt on the flywheel and another bolt on the case, where the tranny mounts to it. Then do the same for the other side. This prevents it from slipping, keeps your teeth on the flywheel (for those of you who just jam a screw driver in where the start goes, and best of all you keep all the skin on your knuckles hehe, hope that helps but if the motor is in the car, screw driver all the way

dohcdelsol93

use 19mm 6 pt impact socket with 3ft breaker bar with a cheater bar over it. I prefer a good 4 ft. put the car in gear and have someone step on the brakes and steadily apply all your weight

spooncivic1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Snail Tuning &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just hotwire it, just hook it up to your battery and it would do the same thing.

don't have to remove the starter that way </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok i tried this, and the starter done nothing

how do i hotwire the thing? i really need to get the pulley off. i managed to drop the woodruf key down there. other than that its ready to swap in my car

spooncivic1

the neg on the top screw thing, then the positive the plug goes? this is on a GSR if that helps

AutoXer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Attatch the biggest ratchet you have to the socket you're using and brace said ratchet's handle against some part of the car or floor that will not flex. Now, carefully bump the starter a couple times so the torque of the starter is the actuating force on the ratchet. It should bump a couple times and, if the ratchet is properly braced, break loose what you need .</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't Honda engines cycle the wrong way to do this?

spooncivic1

no they go the right way, but i can't get the starter to turn. it will pop out but won't turn

ALLMOTOR18

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX_AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Don't Honda engines cycle the wrong way to do this?

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Yes, Honda turn counterclockwise so you will be making the bolt tighter instead of loosening it..

capbyrd

get a crank pulley tool. they are a little expensive but a worthwhile investment

spooncivic1

i don't have the money. im too poor.

specv5150

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spooncivic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't have the money. im too poor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ia ctuallt boguth one for 29.95 or 39.95. From harbor Freight. It stopped the crank from moving. Even just having someone step on the brakes helps but that bitch is just on there super duper tight. The tool was useful for me, but the bolt was a bitch

mrnicolas

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by capbyrd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a crank pulley tool. they are a little expensive but a worthwhile investment</TD></TR></TABLE>

it definately helped using the crank pulley tool and a 5 foot pipe on my 2 foot breaker bar and my fat friend putting his weight on it.

blaster834

what i would do is have something in the flywheel to hold it and then breaker bar that bitch

in-progress

doesn't anyone use chainwrenches anymore?